host: lets your from rancho cucamonga, california. caller: good morning.h veronique de rugy, she mentioned not to make duee new policies permanent to its effect in the future. i just want to mention that when and toook the government ,he economy after bush left they implemented some type of benefits for contractors for hire new personnel. they had some credits to hire more people. they have a credit of $5,000 for every employee that works 80 hours or less. [indiscernible] that law should be abolished. host: i will let you go there, you are fading out but thank you. veronique de rugy. guest: right now, this is not the problem. even if you give money to employers or you change the rules for employers, consumers are not coming. the problem is not the inability to hire people, it is the fact that consumers do not want to go to restaurants, bars, they do not want to go to malls, anywhere. the problem is not a traditional recession problem. it may come to this. that said, it is unclear whether it will come to this. whether this is just a temporary -- we are goin