according to the scientists and medical community, and so, i had a great partner in the mayor, andy guntherhe and i said, we'll allow the event to go on, but no spectators. that was tough. because it disappointed an awful lot of people and there's a big economic impact for the city of columbus. >> and people could see the economic impact, they couldn't see the pandemic impact at that time. now that they saw the numbers that came after, now you have a flattening of the curve. it comes about persistence and selling on people on staying the course. one of the ways you did that is staying even in your approach. so, with the election, you were like, listen. i've got to change the election. and the president disagrees with that move, the supreme court just agreed with him in the state case of wisconsin. i know there was a discreet issue there about expanding the date for absentee ballots specifically. but why do you ascribe to the school of thought that moving an election is not undoing an election? >> well, we look at it as continuing the election, which is really what we did. our plan originall