author of 30 books a political philosopher and the executive director of the tri continental institute for social research they talked about the failures of our government to deal with this crisis the demands workers should be making and much more than redacted correspondent natalie mcgill will talk about some mind blowing old news from medieval times the era the eatery then i will go into how big businesses are taking small business support good news for people who like breathing and how the virus is remaking the college process college education process but 1st let's go to that interview between camp and v.j. . the shot of thank you so much really there. i'm a big fan of your writing you wrote an excellent article recently in which you said during a pandemic the private sector austerity model has fallen apart we've seen such a tremendous collapse of the capitalist state institutions that are supposed to help people during a crisis the guidelines for what to do have been all over the place the medical gear is not available the hospitals are overwhelmed the tests still aren't widely available in the u.s.