the things people are doing to make sure their deliveries are safe craig callahan typically favored larger companies he said when he screens the market, to hhim, small and mid p value jumps out. is there anything in terms of seeing deep value that has your attention this that segment of the market here, too >> anytime you look yesterday, the russell 2000 was down 7% it underperformed by maybe service as 10% so as you lead into a recession and i think these things are getting compressed to where we might be going to a recession quickly and the market's discounting since it's forward look iing, but i think a a lot the value is in small cap that's underperformed it leads coming out of a recession. i think there's lot of tup opportunities and people will see a will the of dislocations and that's where opportunities are and where money is really made over the long run >> when is the last time that part of the market led >> i guess i'd having to go back four or five years tosee where that, where it really did. we had a actually two year run where small caps did extremely well and i think, i thin