. >> reporter: father joseph mcshane is a jesuit priest and the president for the university in new yorkin normal times, he'd be getting ready to preside over commencement ceremonies. these clearly are not normal times. what more can we do? how can we be more present in the moment, which doesn't allow us to be present physically? how can we be present to our people? >> reporter: they may have little in common in terms of background and training, but each of them, warrior, doctor, and priest is an accomplished leader. what do you think are the most important elements of leadership? >> that's a tough question. i think you have to begin with self-knowledge. number two, you have to know what your priorities are. number three, you have to be wise enough to ask for advice. and four, you have to be humble enough to accept it. and if you're able to do those, you'll be a leader. good leader, maybe. great leader, possibly. >> i think first you have to care. you can pretend you care about the organization, mission, and the people, but if it's not true, over time it will come out, and there will be