are indistinguishable from the effects produced by heroin if you give an experienced heroin user oxy kodo and heroin it's hard for that heroin user to tell which is which in fact if you ask them which they like a little bit better and unlike a blind taste test. it was a study that has claimed the university the oxy codell and is preferred to the heroin so what i'm saying is that when we talk about opioid pain medicine worse since they talking about heroin tells an 1892 doctors john purdue gray and george frederick bingham started the per do frederick company on manhattan's lower east side and 1952 it was sold to 2 other doctors raymond and moto. in the intervening years they expanded the company to other states moving their headquarters to stanford connecticut and changing the name to produce for produce a private family many of them are doctors many that are philanthropist. a lot of money billions but they are now i hear typical rich people yachts dating models things like that they're intellectual people they care about science cancer research on arts a 3rd brother dr arthur sackler rev