doctors even be sure that they are indeed doing no harm well to discuss that i'm now joined by mikhail peterson a prominent house longer and daughter of the canadian psychologist jordan peterson it goes good to talk to you thank you very much for coming over thanks for having me on i'm excited to be here now technically speaking you're supposed to be me how you and not me caleb because your father's name the year after me ho gorbachev. so in great detail most of my substitutions would call me but no. i'm not sure why my parents chose to pronounce it like that but. do you know what was it about me how gorbachev the 1st until house president of the soviet union. made your father call his firstborn after him i do actually my dad was. a bit traumatise from the relationship north america had with russia during the cold war and when the soviet union fell which was. to a large part from which i have there was a huge relief in north america from. the end of the war so to dad mikhail gorbachev represented somebody who. may have like saved north america from russia i don't claim to know better but having