aneel really has that human capital thing down but the financial part that he's been trying to do ist. you can't do those numbers if that's the case. they must both be accelerated. >> we had a very strong quarter for financials you know, everything is -- given the current environment, which is a challenging environment, but we signed up a fortune 50 company, fannie mae, a financials customer. we had many great wins on the planning side. our procurement applications did really well, which really is a part of finance in many cases. our new friends at scout landed lowe's and albert son's really exciting wins for them for companies that are not in the cloud, i think they're struggling to run their systems. either whether it's having -- or lack of agility in the legacy systems. so when the world does get back to normal, i think the cloud companies, salesforce, are going to continue to thrive and probably see an acceleration in a move to the cloud. >> i know you do a lot of work with universities. i know that they are really struggling so, a struggling university is more likely to order wo