and bluetooth is basically a very straightforward sort of protocol which can do the car other devises close to you with a range of up to 10 meters and it can also go through one so it doesn't necessarily mean if you if your let's say our lab then yes you see some other bluetooth 'd devices that you were our. other person because it might just be that you're under rocks so there's issues about our whether it is completely accurate in its parts of the actual contact you know. and furthermore there might be a mission as the previous speaker said about roe you know if somebody has gotten one of them are if this individual is not to use it so there's a number of apples which will determined. if we are honest. specially on the point you mention there could be a wall or a floor between you and the other person that the app doesn't see because it's just connecting bluetooth so dr patrick overall higher how scientific are some of these parameters if you can't see through a wall or you know if the parameter is being set differently between countries that are using this technology i mean current

is trialing a test track and trace program on the isle of wight like singapore it uses bluetooth to detect when a person's phone has been near another own by someone reporting symptoms of covert 19 and cattle has an app linking uses to a health ministry database it assigns q.r. codes to differentiate between suspected confirmed and quarantined cases. well let's bring in our panel joining us from doha is dr patrick tang he's the division chief of pathology sciences that said there medicine from london sastry senior lecturer in the department of informatics at king's college london and from rotterdam alan phatic a behavioral psychologist and professor of organizational behavior at the help business school could have you all with us can start with dr patrick so to what extent have mobile phone tracking apps actually proved effective so far and helping to contain covert 19 well i think there's a lot of promise for different how status apps and tracking apps were part of the picture in. that night out rate right now there's a few countries around the world that have started to use. types of app

one idea that's gathering attention is using bluetooth on a smartphone.ing explored by the uk's nhs x team amongst others. the idea is that anywhere i go, my smartphone will extend an anonymous key with other smartphones nearby using bluetooth. my phone would keep the keys it receives for 14 days and strangers will keep mine. if i then get ill i will then be able to declare my status and up and add my key to a central database. that means everybody who has picked up my key while out and about can be warned instantly that someone they have met has coronavirus. this idea has the backing of apple and google — they plan to build the tech into their mobile operating systems, ios and android, so in future it won't even use a third—party app for it to work. now using bluetooth offers more privacy, because the codes shared are anonymous, the matching can be done on your device rather than on a central database, and the system doesn't use any location data so it won't keep a record of where you have been. but you'll need a smartphone, and not all of them have the

the new app uses a phone's bluetooth connection to work. installed the app, every time you come into contact with someone else who has it, your phone records that fact. then if you tell the app you have symptoms of covid—i9, the other people who you've been close to will be automatically alerted and should self—isolate. the app is just one part of a wider strategy to test, track and trace the virus. it's hoped 18,000 specialist staff will be at work by the middle of the month using widespread testing to stamp out any virus hotspots. the aim of test, track and trace is to hunt down and isolate the virus so it's unable to reproduce, and crucially, test, track and trace allows us to take a more targeted approach to lockdown while still safely containing the disease. by embarking on this project and by embracing test, track and trace, you will be saving lives. 288 coronavirus deaths were reported yesterday. that's the lowest daily total for more than a month, but may reflect a lag in reporting over the weekend. there's been a total of 28,731; f

where to bluetooth signal it can measure distance or estimate that this is between phones that was not possible on all phones until today when that a.p.i. is accessible but the others have done iceland china and so on that's not a real proximity tracing that's tracking of people's movements and that's very different and it's certainly not something we're interested in doing here so how reliable will this proximity tracing swiss app be. so i think it will be quite reliable and i have to say right it's not just the swiss i mean there's there's many countries around the world that are now rapidly building these apps based on these a.p.i. . whether they work and to what extent of course that remains to be seen we have to be open minded but keep in mind all these apps are doing is they're essentially following the same protocol that you would follow if you had the human contact tracer so the idea is really only to build these apps and provide them as an add on to the human contact tracers so that means measuring this nces of around 6 feet 2 meters with about 15 minutes and then alert people

on the entire day 24 hours a day and then when you're out and about that bluetooth is connecting to other devices that also have their bluetooth on what apple and google are saying is listen a lot of our users are going to get mad when their phone batteries are dead right away because they're walking around with their bluetooth on and running this because remember the other thing that these governments are asking for is that even when you turn your phone off or you move to a different app that that bluetooth app keep running in the background the entire time and apple and google are both saying no to this because it essentially violates their their policies to have an app running and tracking you in the background but it would also drain your battery almost immediately especially if you have an older device well especially if you have an older device like you're saying and most it mostly because we still have leased they say the option to turn off the settings on that be able to track us when we're not using those apps but then we do know that some government such as the united king

concerns but still healthy that as a necessity evil we have to always keep your location on the bluetooth on so that they call it get it out with home their own i think in the present only business we were required also because if somebody is infected in our you should also normally in the last contact tracing app continually tracked the location of users allowing it to alert the was to me have come close to someone who lead to death positive for corona light of. critics worry that this means a centralized government database has nearly the elicit information about the location of millions indian apologies however insists but off the apps millions of users only the data out of the thousands detected would positive has been tracked. to alert their contacts and even their data would be deleted 60 days after they had recovered the east mccloy what was there is no possibility of surveillance or any such issue is a bit of privacy policy is very clear and is readily available. at many gay have bought privacy activists are not satisfied they see and this in ways it needs to be more transparent a

switch off that bluetooth if the programmes are being used. would render it completely useless. i've spoken to government officials covering the story in recent days, they acknowledge that there is a potential scenario where that can occui’ potential scenario where that can occur whether problems may not made by broadbent and not android or the app is not open or the screen is locked. it can only be impassive, receiving and cannot reach out and emit its bluetooth to other phones. lucy, sorry to cut you short. we are running out of time. lucy and john thank you very much indeed for our first look at the papers. good evening. it's been a warmer day today and the warm will continue to build for many over the coming few days. but by the time we get to the weekend, change is quick. here eastern coastal counties tomorrow, it will be a warmer day on friday but by the time we get a saturday afternoon, across the north of scotland in particular, there will be a blast of arctic air moving its way southwards right across the uk by sunday. so it will feel

right now to be pursued is an app that would be downloaded i'm sure someone would use basically bluetoothhnology to see who has been in contact with whom if they are if somebody is infected and so you would download the app you turn on your bluetooth capacity and if you later are found to have been infected your phone will have collected any other bluetooth accessible phone that you were near during the prior to weeks and those people would be notified that they might have been infected and they need to take protective measures so it's a good idea in principle but you have to start looking at the fine print you know will the name of the infected person be disclosed there's really no need for that you know will the location of this this meeting be recorded or not again there's no need for that all you need to know is that you when you're someone who's affected you don't need to know the house or store or whatever where that occurred you know is this going to be stored just for 2 weeks when it's actionable or is it can be stored forever it is it can be given to the police or not and what we

it's always running with bluetooth. it is marking down all of the other devices it comes into contact with off of these other apps, and then if you test positive, it alerts any of the other phones that you have been in contact with. one of the issues, for example, with this new zealand version, is that just because you've been in the same building with somebody doesn't necessarily mean you were close enough in contact with. if it's a ten-floor building and you were on the first floor and the other person was on the tenth. with bluetooth technology, once you're in a certain distance for a certain amount of time, it alerts that you have had contact with somebody. but this new zealand app is just a different version of what all these countries are trying to do. they're trying to complement the human contact tracers with technology to try to get a better grasp of this virus. and we still have to see which version works best. and there's a lot of discussion, of course, over privacy, over how the data is stored, whether it's

and it is sort of the you so you pretty put your phone puts out a bluetooth id and picks up the bluetooth i.d.'s of other phones by the way that they you can't govern structured it that won't work if the app is in the background or if the phone is turned off so it's sort of assuming that people will be walking around with this app open all the time and their phone open all the time if those 2 things aren't happening then it won't pick up the bluetooth id's of other phones around you ok i understand it will be happening a lot of the time so short is better than nothing and has a couple and i did have a vague idea of where the virus could be it is better than nothing but the question is should you go this route at all there is a different sort of apps a lot of other countries are using and being promoted by by google and apple which will pick up all bluetooth id's it's more to sort of the sensuous approach and that will be more effective no the n.h.s. the u.k. government decided that it wants to be able to have access to that data itself in order to do more analysis and one of the compromis

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and it is sort of the you so you pretty put your phone puts out a bluetooth i.d. and picks up the blue tooth i.d.'s of other phones by the way that they you can't govern structured it that won't work if the app is in the background or if the phone is turned off so it's sort of assuming that people will be walking around with this app open all the time and their phone open all the time if those 2 things aren't happening then it won't pick up the bluetooth id's of other phones around you ok i understand it will be happening a lot of the time so short is better than nothing and has a couple and i didn't have that they got to where the virus could be it is better than nothing but the question is should you go this route at all there is a different sort of apps a lot of other countries are using and being promoted by by google and apple which will pick up all bluetooth ids it's more to sort of the essential approach and that will be more effective no the n.h.s. u.k. government decided that it wants to be able to have access to that data itself in order to do more analy

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this has bluetooth light.? basically my phone when out walking around makes contact with other people's phones and if that film is passing on a message, but say that person is feeding symptoms or reporting symptoms during the day, my phone will be pinged by that phone because they are using the same bluetooth —based app. depending on how the algorithm works, the distance and strength of signal and all that, i would then get a message, not immediately because it is anonymized, i'm not quite sure who i may not have come into contact with, but four to six hours later, i will then get a text alerting me to the possibility i might have come into some contact with somebody with symptoms. if they don't turn out to have the all clear i will then get that message as well in due course soi that message as well in due course so i will now that that was a false possibility and i have the all clear. likewise they then, i will be told that i should take precautions. probably was one for you, that is the right answer? absolu

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far enough so that's one of the concerns here so essentially what these have in common is they use bluetooth technology you have an app on your phone someone else has it on their phone it uses essentially the bluetooth to be able to connect and to determine whether or not you come in contact with someone who has a coronavirus the problem is that under the google apple system it's entirely voluntary and like in the u.k. they don't necessarily want it to be voluntary they want to be able to track as many people as possible and to have data that's included in that that tells you the person's location it gives you information about who they are where they are and where and where they're headed to so there's way more information being given to the authorities than there is under the google apple version well we've discussed this before here on boom bust panda a few weeks ago where france was asking apple and google to take some settings and do some resetting of some of these apps so that they could they could actually continue with this at this tracking app but the n.h.s. granted privacy internat

issues so rather than be concerned with issues like solidarity they become issues of things like bluetooth sensitivity. michael that said isn't it i mean this is a this turns it doesn't turn as into spies but it turns people into being suspicious of other people when they have these. doesn't it to some degree yes the sort of no manual contact tracing out say and so does this whole situation where we find ourselves in general i think to some degree we can't avoid that but we also have to face up to the fact that interventions such as apps may make that particularly worse these open up important questions how do we just mantle this kind of system once it's created one of the purposes that we built this system is purpose limitation by design and the idea of being is that you stop function create you prevent certain kinds of mission being easily to sort of take it so that for example the state doesn't have a database they can analyze in great detail it's really a known quantity and no. way of triggering risk or not triggering risk and it there i completely agree with everybody else on apparel

apple and google are giving technology to states to develop apps that use bluetooth to alert you whenates like utah have their own apps using gps data to track where you've been and discover where the steez disease is spre. contact tracing like south korea is far more invasive. tracking exposed people through everything like surveillance footage through credit card purchases, data all fed into a national disease tracking system. cdc tells nbc news human contract tracers are the only proven way of doing this work. so to slow the spread of this virus we will need to pick up the phone when she calls. >> jake ward joins us now to discuss this further. jake, tell us about the technology behind these apps. what impact could they have if every state started using them? >> reporter: well, joshua, with no real federal oversight, i mean let's keep in mind the cdc is not providing any kind of overarching regulation of how this is supposed to work. it's not a national effort. it's being left to the state. so each state is being forced to ask itself how we will somehow automate the process of cont

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app in the coming days to speed up covid—19 contact tracing if you and i have it and we are within bluetooth of each other and i am later tested and i am positive it will alert you. he's so sweet. congratulations. and a royal welcome — the duchess of cambridge shows her support for new parents and maternity staff with a virtual visit. the number of people in the uk who have died from coronavirus has risen above 28,000 — the second worst total in europe — and the british prime minister has spoken for the first time in detail about his experience of being in intensive care with the disease. speaking to the sun on sunday, borisjohnson said "contingency plans" were made to announce his death while he was seriously ill with covid—i9. speaking to the bbc this morning, transport secretary grant shapps, said the new nhs contract tracing app is being trialled on the isle of wight this week before being rolled out more widely later this month. meanwhile it's emerged that more than 2,000 patients in england, wales and northen ireland admitted to intensive care with coronavirus also suffered kidney fail

i know that they do it and one way to ensure greater privacy is to use immediate neighborhood bluetooth connections. >> yeah. >> to identify who you are in contact with, rather than the more centralized cell phone system. some of the apps are limiting the exposure, in terms of freedom, by relying on the more neighborhood immediate geographic connection of bluetooth. with respect to the self-destruction, i loved that. i think that definitely all legal and technological steps towards inc. is eclipsing liberty have to have sunset clause attached to them. it can be a time related one, or it can just be an independent review board having the authority to order the mobile phone companies to implement the self-destruction button when the crisis has passed. >> got it. >> great idea. >> great ideas. i want to come back to the challenges that the pandemic is imposing on democracies. i have a couple really good questions about what they are doing to authoritarian regimes. james asked the following question, when it comes to broad-based crisis such as covid-19, due to the regimes and economic struc

it uses a bluetooth signal. 0nce so how does the app work? it uses a bluetooth signal.t will be recorded on the phone. if you record you have symptoms, contacts within the last seven days will be alerted through their phones and they will then need to self—isolate. so what about personal privacy? designers say downloading the app won't require any details apart from a postcode, and data security is at the heart of the project, though some say future development will need to be monitored. we need to ensure that there is respect for core data protection principles, and here i would in particular highlight purpose limitation, so that is the idea that we create something for a specific purpose and that we then don't re—purpose it. specific purpose and that we then don't re-purpose it. scientists involved in the plan say the app can't do the job on its own. that has to be part of an overall strategy, involving less testing to work out who has got the virus and where, and at least 18,000 officials to do the contact tracing, especially for patients who don't have the app. at t

what these countries are asking for is that your bluetooth run the entire time your phone is on so that it's quietly running behind your system if you have an older phone it will kill your phone in just a few hours in terms of battery life now going from germany to tennessee scotty you are right there on the front lines one of those states again who is releasing these specific names how is the policy going over where you are what are you saying what can you tell us well as you can imagine fair and it's not going over very well mainly because this was put through basically through the dark of night now the governor you're going to lease says that he's just going on the advice of the federal health board that put out that maybe these guidelines but local legislators you're saying wait a minute why did you not 1st of all you dissolved us but you also get passed this through the state house in the state senate so why are you doing that now there are 10 states that are releasing one state has already said you know what we're not going to deal with the legal battles this might cause and they'

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i won these bluetooth headphones for $20. i got these three suitcases for less than $40.nd shipping is always free. go to dealdash.com right now and see how much you can save. judge jeanine: the race for a vaccine intensifies as some states gradually begin to re-open. the number of people infected by the coronavirus. here to talk about the white house efforts and the response coordinator, dr. deborah birx. i want to start at the beginning. in the beginning it was suggested the mortality rate would be 5% and the numbers are so much higher than what we thought they would be. but the cdc never used the the test base to couple with a lethality basis. they didn't use the number of people who would be exposed to accurately consider the number of people affected by covid. isn't that a little different from how the cdc evaluated the flu? now that we test people we know the rate is so much lower. >> i think we are learning every day about the virus and how it interacts with us as human hosts. that's important to constantly be try age yo -- using data. there are people that get inf