cardiff school of journalism media and culture of care and so good to talk to you thank you very much for being with us. thank you very much for having me now karen blaming journalists or the media for creating a beehive is as old as our profession the south but. is that really an applicable charge in these days. when it was i think really big national governments and international organizations like the double your children were behind the most apocalyptic predictions about both the scale and there without a t.-o. call that 19 predictions that thankfully failed to realize but created a lot of fear or perhaps a lot of justifies here in the last. well i think that obviously the pandemic is an extremely scary situation for everyone around the world and it's also extremely important for you insist to have access to information about what's happening on the ground and now i think that it's obviously important to balance what is obvious the reporting around a phrase scary situation with also managing the emotions audiences who are already i think in many cases finding this a baby from medi

carol and you're a good friend director of research development and environment and the cardiff school of journalism and media at caltech cat care and just make sure to break the suggested. corona virus outbreak is defo our break of its kind to take place in the hybrid media environment where traditional media craigslist with social media and i'm not sure i agree with your dad because i covered wars and that libya and in syria and not only the media environment was very much alike but also bill lines of covers the kind of stories journalists were filing were very similar i mean in a war zone there are 2 main kinds of stories the front lines and the victims and the emotional personal stories and i see the same thing with the coverage of corporate 19 year how they they hospitals and the doctors and victims of this pandemic don't you think that there is something today that it's not only the politicians but also the journalists who are prone to cheating this pandemic flu or a paradigm like. well i think that we do see metaphors of war being used being widely in terms of talking about the coronavirus so