peggy noonan, i want you to listen to this bill barr answer to a question about what will history say about this. wait until you hear this answer. take a listen. >> when history looks back on this decision, how do you think it will be written? >> well, history is written by the winners so it largely depends on who's writing the history. >> i was struck, peggy, by the cynicism of the answer. it's a correct answer, but he's

and "wall street journal" columnist peggy noonan. quite the ambition there, richard, the world.w. a small -- a small focus for one book. but let me start, kristen welker, with you. there's a report this morning that staffers in the white house are a bit rattled. two positive tests in the last week. suddenly, a sobering reminder the virus is even still inside their house. >> that's right, chuck. this is the week that everything changed at the white house. this is the week that they went from fighting an invisible enemy, as the president has dubbed it, to an enemy that landed squarely on the steps of 1600 pennsylvania avenue. and so there's a lot of discussion about how many more officials may need to be in quarantine. of course, we saw that the head of the fda, as well as the cdc, dr. anthony fauci, is going to be kwquarantining in a measured form. but really, it put on display the sharp disconnect, chuck, the fact that the white house is essentially urging the country to reopen cities and states, yet those same cities and states do not have the same level of testing that exists

and "wall street journal" columnist peggy noonan. quite the ambition there, richard, the world.ou know. a small -- a small focus for one book. but let me start, kristen welker, with you. there's a report this morning that staffers in the white house are a bit rattled. two positive tests in the last week. suddenly, a sobering reminder the virus is even still inside their house. >> that's right, chuck. this is the week that everything changed at the white house. this is the week that they went from fighting an invisible enemy, as the president has dubbed it, to an enemy that landed squarely on the steps of 1600 pennsylvania avenue. and so there's a lot of discussion about how many more officials may need to be in quarantine. of course, we saw that the head of the fda, as well as the cdc, dr. anthony fauci, is going to be quarantining in a measured form. but really, it put on display the sharp disconnect, chuck, the fact that the white house is essentially urging the country to reopen cities and states, yet those same cities and states do not have the same level of testing that exi

i feel bad for peggy noonan. i know peggy.aven't talked about this but what a position to put her in. if you are the anchor of the show on your producers put your contributor in a position like that, it's really wrong as well. i would imagine she probably wasn't too happy either. >> jesse: he really set her up. i checked, "the five"'s ratings are better than "meet the press." by almost a million viewers. and we are on cable. up next, robot dogs. enforcing lockdown rules. getting older shouldn't mean giving up all the things she loves to do. it should just mean, well, finding new ways to do them. right at home's professional team thoughtfully selects caregivers to provide help with personal care, housekeeping, and of course, meal preparation. oh, that smells so good. aw, and it tastes good, too. we can provide the right care, right at home. that liberty mutual customizes your insurance, i just love hitting the open road and telling people so you only pay for what you need! [squawks] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. libert

thing that chuck todd said was, "why didn't he talk about the rule of law in his analysis with peggy noonan so, listen, we all make mistakes and analysis. sometimes sound bites are in complete. but that one was, because he was going to the heart of what the attorney general was getting at, to stop it short obviously send up a lot of red flares. he's not going to get fired, i'm sure, from nbc for that, despite what the president said. but it is, in the president's eyes, an example of how, again and again and again, it always goes that way and not in his administration's favor. the mistakes. he won all right, we'll move onto this. a new poll finds the majority disapproving of protests now against the covid-19 restrictions. states are continuing to grapple with reopening average fears of a second wave of the virus, possibly this fall. the poll also finds democrats more likely to disapprove of the protests than republicans. this, as joe biden is attacking president trump over his response. he wrote in an op-ed, "instead of unifying the country to accelerate our public health response and get ec

disaster, the evening, that evening president reagan gave that remarkable speech written for him by peggy noonanslip the surly bonds of earth to touch the face of god is the way it ended, speaking of the astronauts who died. and it was the moment of the reagan presidency that i most vividly remember because he expressed the feeling of sadness and mourning and shock that so many americans, that all of us really were feeling and he did it so brilliantly and made us feel better. and of course there was nothing of that from president trump. there was more self-centered tweeting. it's just sad. we're having to cope with this on our own and we don't have a leader now who can help us get through this moment. >> jill colvin, talk about this executive order tomorrow that the white house has teased out. i understand since we've been on the air the "washington post" is out with some reporting, details that they've been able to gather, but as a practical matter what power would the president have, executive order or not, over a private entity like twitter? >> you know, i've been speaking to experts about th

when peggy noonan wrote those extraordinary words for ronald reagan, about touching the face of god. that's what americans need right now from whomever can give it to them. maybe, if this president can't don't, maybe they need it from their governors. maybe they need it from their may mayors. maybe they can't get it from political leaders, like we've gotten it from people like ronald reagan in the past. maybe they get it from their priests or their pastors. but, yeah, americans want that. they want a consoler in chief, someone who understands the pain that they are going through. >> yeah. they're not going to get it here. peggy noonan could write a beautiful speech in this moment and hand it across the desk to donald trump. if he delivered it, would it be convincing, given how he conducted himself up to this day? it wouldn't be, and that's a fact. that moment isn't going to come from the president. as we said several times on this show, governors are very popular right now. the governors, in their own way, are delivering that message to their people. tough love but hope at the same t

as peggy noonan wrote about. but he's volunteering. >> on the front lines. >> in the middle of a pandemic. why? because he's a good american. >> my dad would be so proud. >> that's the thick that ng tha always have to remember. there's a lot of noise coming ow of the white house. there's a lot of nurse turning arounded on twitt around on twitter. but that's the small minority. and we being democrats, republicans, independents, we have them outnumbered. let's keep being responsible. let's keep loving others, loving our neighbors as our self. let's keep -- if it's wearing a mask in public to protect yourself and to protect others as all medical people tell you you should do, then that's just a small way that we can love others as we love ourselves. and to volunteer like this, paul, thank you so much, first of all, for that wonderful note on the anniversary of his passing. but more importantly, thank you for volunteering. you and so many millions of others like you are the best of what this country has to offer and

i read peggy noonan's column she talked about this pandemic though tragic has changed a lot of americansd we just may come out on the other side a more -- a more plainer and better people. what are your thoughts as this book's released the middle of this pandemic as so many americans find themselves in that valley between two mountains. >> yeah. the book is about going through hard times and coming out better on the other side. and i think what you diskocovern the valley you get broken and can get broken up or broken open. those who are broken get hard and they're unfeeling frankly like our president. and those who are broken open get softer and see deeper into themselves. in moments of suffering, they interrupt your life and remind you you're not who you thought you were. carve through the floor of the basement of your soul and real depths you did not know you had. you find down there the ability to care for one another and lose the ego ideals you had. a friend of mine said when her first daughter was born she realized she loved her more than evolution required. i always loved that beca