well let's speak to one of those rights groups now and human rights watch that is phil robertson is the deputy asia director at human rights watch he joins us via skype from bangkok thank you very much for being with us fail 1st of all can you tell us more about who the people who've been detained by malaysian authorities are and what reason thought is giving for holding them well these are refugees and migrants they're primarily from the countries of pakistan india nepal bangladesh an indonesia but there are also some other burmese refugees mixed in there as well. as are claiming that these people are undocumented that they don't have the right to be in malaysia. the problem is of course that by hurting them into unsanitary immigration detention centers it's a great way to ensure they all end up with covert 19 what sort of. what have what effects have they been on these migrants in malaysia in particular face when it comes to this crisis a lot of locals of course have blamed for nez for spreading the virus how have the migrants being treated as a result of this crisis. we've seen a wav

know whose houses were burned this is what the house was worth who is going to pay for that phil robertson's deputy asia director of human rights watch and as always we appreciate your time thank you very much thank you rob and stern is the so-called black summer of bushfires killed nearly 4 $150.00 people health experts have told a commission looking into last year's fires that 80 percent of the population was affected dozens ended up in hospital with respect to problems the fires caused billions of dollars of damage to property. well you're right but what can a yearly cost push cost fight for the summer season and the cost the way of tackling an errant comments in the last season where $2000000000.00 in health costs associated with premature loss and life and admissions to hospitals and that's about 10 times i have a speech and a year because when i ran city that was a major departure from anything retained in the previous 20 years. and plenty more ahead on the news hour including struggling to make ends meet someone who is in the philippines being getting by joining the coronavirus in loc

and the ethnic i'm out of army has resulted in a number of civilian deaths and destroyed homes phil robertson is the deputy asia director of human rights watch and he says the chances of justice being served for the fire are slim what we can say is the burning have let car village you know it has all the hallmarks of myanmar military arson that we saw done against the rohingya several years ago in 2017 and that's why we're calling for a credible and impartial investigation to find out what happened and punish those responsible well that's what we would like to see but i think the likelihood is extremely slim. i would say that really almost no chance whatsoever you know on the our economy of course is accusing the military the military is accusing our con army without any sort of independent investigation it's just going to be 2 fingers pointing at each other and at the end of the day it's the civilians who are caught in the middle you know who are facing the rights abuses who are losing their property in this case you know well over 70 percent of the houses in that village were burnt down sti

or i came out a kind of army that resulted in a number of civilian deaths and destroyed homes phil robertson is the deputy aged director at human rights watch and he says the chances of justice being served for the fuzz while a slim. what we can say is the burning you have that car village you know it has all the hallmarks are military arson that we saw done against the rohingya several years ago in 2017 and that's why we're calling for a credible and impartial investigation to find out what happened and punish those responsible well that's what we would like to see but i think the likelihood is extremely slim. i would say that really almost no chance whatsoever you know on the our economy of course is accusing the military the military is accusing our con army without any sort of independent investigation it's just going to be 2 fingers pointing at each other and at the end of the day it's the civilians who are caught in the middle you know who are facing the rights abuses who are losing their property in this case you know well over 70 percent of the houses in that village were burnt down

the government of playing to their sentiments and carrying out these raids whether it's from phil robertson who's the deputy director of human rights watch and he says the malaysian or soroti is a risk in the health of the people they've arrested. the authorities are claiming that these people are undocumented that they don't have the right to be in malaysia . the problem is of course that by hurting them into unsanitary immigration detention centers it's a great way to ensure they all end up with covert 19th from a public health perspective this is probably the most stupid thing that the government of malaysia could do what they've done is send a signal to migrant workers and others you know which number in the millions and malaysia that if you see from someone coming from the ministry of health run the other way and what we're going to see is a lack of cooperation from the migrant communities for any efforts by the government to try to control control kovan 1000 because they correctly fear they will be arrested and hauled off into camps where they may spend months in even years before the