how and why, lies with phyllis schlafly and her, and her army of supporters.> stephen: before we go, could i-- could i ask you for a little customer feedback here. what's this like on the other side? >> i-- i actually-- i prefer it, in a way. i think it's probably harder for you than me because, you know, you-- you've got the whole-- i mean, there is a particular energy that comes off having an audience. but it's like watching "m.a.s.h." without the laugh track. you kind of get another, you get another layer to it. >> stephen: i suppose so. >> "m.a.s.h." is one of the seminal pieces of television, you've got to say. >> stephen: of course. i'm guessing if we were dependent on audience laughter we wouldn't have dived quite so far into dylan's lyrics. >> right, perhaps. but you know, the only thing i would do-- there's a little section above your head that probably could do with a little vase of flowers. no, the other side. >> stephen: here? >> it looks a little-- it looks a little bit like your wife has told you, "you are not sleeping in our bed anymore" and you

it stars cate blanchett as phyllis schlafly, who was a big leader in the conservative right movementss the e.r.a. and she brought together some housewives and really sort of put together a coalition that still exists today. and the e.r.a. never came to pass. >> jimmy: she would not like the charity you selected tonight, would she, elizabeth? >> no. it's literally why i selected this charity. >> jimmy: the center for reproductive rights is your charity. tell us a bit about that. >> the center for reproductive rights, they fight all the court battles to keep abortion safe and legal in america. so abortions are a constitutionally protected right, and right now -- i mean, i personally think that the government shouldn't be involved in deciding how many people are in your family at any time but especially now when people are facing such unstable and anxiety-ridden times. i think it's important everyone have access to whatever health care they need. and the center fights to keep those clinics open in states all across america. >> jimmy: well, thank you, elizabeth. it is great to see your f

and think it was phyllis schlafly's group that backed this. they joined to combat this.here was something of a feminist and right-wing alliance on the pornography issue. that happened here. this ordinance was challenged, struck down by the district thet and struck down by seventh circuit. areerbrook says you regulating nonobscene speech, defining pornography as a practice that discriminates against women, and you regulated it whether it passes the miller test for obscenity. instead, you ban it if it sends the wrong signal. ordinancey says the -- in the ordinance depicts the subordination of women and pictures of words and includes one or more of the following -- i'm not going to read all of this. it is in your book. at any rate, the indianapolis ordinance does not defer to the purulent -- the prurient interest, or standards of community. it is a particular depiction and is irrelevant under the amendment as to whether the act has value. that is a virtue. they say pornography influences attitudes in the way to alter attitudes, rather than to vindicate community standards.

america, going back through phyllis schlafly and the fight over the era. i can't say the last time i have on major television the story but disabilities right and you say disabled are the villains or the tragic antihero and never the romantic lead, never the best person in the movie. >> guest: or if they are they don't have disability. two years ago coming home with john voigt -- i'm dating myself service i'm 72. this in the seven inside -- he was a positive character, playing a paraplegic. however, he didn't -- he doesn't really have a disability. and my left foot, all these movies where there are positive messages, forrest gump, played by nondisabled people. a whole other issue. one of the basic issues around why are we not seeing more is a combination. one is i think people are afraid of acquiring a disable themselves. they look at people like myself or whomever, and they say, i don't know how hey do it. couldn't do it. they don't really know what it is and they don't really know -- not only what it is that we are doing but they don't really also think

america and phyllis schlafly and the fight of the ea. i can't see the last tomorrow i saw a story about disable rights and you point out when we see the disabled they're the veilline or the tragic antihero, never the romantic lead, never the best person in the movie. >> guest: or they don't have a disability. years ago combing home with john voigt, i'm dating myself. i'm 72. thisness the 70s. he was a positive character playing a paraplegic, however he doesn't really have a disability. and my left foot, all these movie where are there positive messages, forrest gump, played by nondisaged people. he that's another whole issue. think one of the basic issues around why not, why are we not seeing more is a combination. one is, i think people are afraid of acquiring a disability themselves. they look at people like myself, or whomever, and they say i don't know how they do it. couldn't do it. they don't really know what it is, and they don't really know -- not only what it is that we are doing but they really also think about themselves and t

america, going back to phyllis schlafly and the fight over the era. i can't think of the last time that i've seen on major television the story about disability rights. you point out when reducing the disabled they are the building or the tragic antihero. it are never the romantic lead, they are never the best person in the movie. >> or if they are they don't have a disability. a few good to go coming home with jon john voight, undated myself, i'm 72. 72. this was in the '70s. he was a positive character playing a paraplegic. however, he doesn't really have a disability. and my left foot, all these movies with our positive messages, forrest gump, they are played by nondisabled people. that's a whole nother issue. one of the basic issues around why not, why are we not seeing more is a combination. one is i think people are afraid of acquiring a disability themselves. they look at people like myself or whomever and they say, i don't know how they do it. i couldn't do it. they don't really know what it is, and you don't really know -- not only what it is

activists like phyllis schlafly and others saw the potential to unite this movement. so there had been a lot of pro-choice voices in the republican party, and they were purged from the party. so today what you see is a kind of to-life religion and -- pro-life religion. at the last values voters summit, it's like a big gathering with a lot of religious right activists,ny perkins got up -- tony perkins got up on stage. and these massive cribs filled with baby cats, it's like his opening stunt to, you know, to kick off this values voters summit and signal it's all about saving the babies, you know? >> yeah, yeah. well, and, you know, to circle back around to authoritarianism as well, you mentioned the talk about the role of russia in disinformation, misinformation and all this. of course, i've been, i just wrote a story for daily coast about this russian organization that's called the russian imperial movement that just got named a terrorist organization by the u.s. state department. and these guys are one of the main organizers of the world conservative conference. they