the deplora-ball, the hard-core anti-semitic alt-right people like richard spencer were precluded from getting inside that party, and so he can just loitered around outside trying to recruit people. it was very messy and kind of full of squabbling, but it also spoke to just how many ways that are to mess with the national discourse. there's a whole range, for some people is more than just again. for other people it was really a hard-core ideological exercise, and the confusion, that slippage also work to their advantage because the a lot of dog whistles, a lot of layers of irony and a lot of ways to get them wrong, if you weren't paying attention. >> host: that we as a society more sophisticated about the speech and could that lessen the impact? >> guest: in some ways i think where more sophisticated but in other ways i don't think we've really got into the bottom of it. there are certain framings of people are less likely to fall for now, certain types of false information, certain types of dog whistles but the fact is the internet is constantly evolving and as soon as one troll gets

the deplore-ball, which we mentioned, actually the hard-core alt-right people like richard spencer werecluded from getting inside that party. and so, he kind of just loitered around outside. trying to recruit people. so it was very messy and kind of full of squabbling. but it also spoke to just how many ways there are to mess with the national discourse. you know, there's a whole range. and for some people, it was more of just a game. for other people, it was really a hard-core ideological exercise. and that confusion, that slippage also worked to their advantage, because there were a lot of dog whistles, layers of irony, and a lot of ways to get them wrong, if you aren't really paying attention. host are we as a society more : sophisticated about this speech and could that lessen the impact, do you think? andrew: in some ways, i think we're more sophisticated. but in other ways, i don't think we've really gotten to the bottom of it. i think there are certain framings that people are less likely to fall for now, certain types of false information, certain types of dog whistles. but the

[laughter] not to say they are not smart but to be honest somebody like richard spencer speak to hasthose prestigious degrees sounds dumber than i did at 14. [laughter] we shouldn't think that they are stupid. so what is white? they need to examine themselves because maybe at one point they were not a part of the power structure. >> [inaudible] >> they want to keep that power but frequently it so important about people harmed along the way. to fix the nation's potholes to help us develop the future. societies and nations can also have potholes and struggle for identity and community and purpose we have potholes we have never focused on. >> you talk about the stabilizing america and the groups that fight against each other. i can see how that breeds chaos but what is to be accomplished by playing video games with jimmy who cannot vote and doesn't have access to a gun? playing a really long game? >> guns are pretty easy to get even for a 15 -year-old. they understand that. what they want to do is create more of that uncertainty because extremism flourishes the small percentage that wal

former secretary richard spencer used one of his last official acts to inform president trump, and i quote, i cannot in good conscience obey an order tha ini think violates the oath i took in the presence of my family, my flag and my states t state to sd defend the constitution of the united dates. she demonstrated leadership and did not only sacrificed his position of power, the defense of good order and discipline but equally important, confidently speaking the truth to power to inform the american people of the dangers posed by the current commander in chief. mr. ambassador did you believe our men and women in uniform arm just killing chain, do you believe something more is required of them and that there are good reasons for that requirement? >> i had an opportunity to talk about the good order discipline a little while ago and like you shared that experience and i understand the importance of it. i believe the men and women that serve in the uniform are patriots first and foremost. they demonstrate a vet every day and go into harms way as you and i both did and we have a sacred

have been glimmers of leadership from within the administration, former secretary of the navy, richard spencer used one of his last official acts to inform president trump that, and i quote, i cannot in good conscience obey an order that i believe violates the sacred oath i took in the presence of my family, my flag, and my faith to support and defend the constitution of the united states. secretary spencer demonstrated leadership in not only sacrificing his position of power, but-- speaking to inform the americans people the dangers posed by the current commander-in-chief. mr. ambassador, do you believe that our men and women are quote, killing machines, do you believe that more is required of them and there are reasons for that requirement? >> senator, i had an opportunity to talk about good order and discipline a little while ago and that like you shared, that experience in uniform and understand the importance of it. i believe the men and women who served in uniform of our nation are patriots first and foremost. they demonstrate that every day, they go into harms' way as you and i both did

spencer peterson. he was born monday to our beloved senior producer meredith richards. miles was 8 pounds, 5 ounces.at baby miles, mom and dad are all happy and healthy. oh, my gosh, look at how cute. >> he's beautiful. >> he's beautiful. congratulations to meredith and her husband todd. >> he looks very happy. he's smiling. he's very happy with the lineup and rundown that meredith put together for us today. >> you're right. he looks very serene, not normally how television producers look, but he looks that way. >> our congratulations to them. >>> so in difficult times people turn to the arts for comfort and a sense of normalcy. artists and musicians can impact us in ways that others cannot. in that spirit, yo-yo ma, one of the most famous is classical musicians, will be performing the bach suites this sunday. joining us now is yo-yo ma. thank you very much for coming on this morning. it is an honor to have you on. >> hi, john. great to see you. congratulations to miles who looks very cute. >> he does look very cute. listen, one of the things we can't do during this pandemic is give people a hug. if

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