clear cut consumer harm argument and it was just something about a broader consumer harm essentially stifelingch ultimately leads to consumer harm, but you know, neil, you can never say definitely until you see the case but there is so much activity going on about this and a lot of it we didn't know about because we're cover ing the pandemic and the country had other things to worry about, but this was going on behind the scenes for months and it did not end when the pandemic hit and things slowed down, but you know, where there's smoke there's fire. we shall see in what happened in the coming weeks ahead. back to you. neil: thank you, my friend very very much, charlie gasparino following that and there's a lot to follow there. we are also waiting to hear from the president of the united states about an hour away from a rose garden event in which he will outline his response to china and its crackdown on hong kong, might also be his first sort of official financial reaction proposal to how china may have mislead the world on the severity of the coronavirus and its earliest days and one way or