score so what they are aiming for is oklahoma city 168 people were killed including children , timothy mcveighmost people don't know was a white supremacist scene at places like aryan nations like the covenant of the sword and the arm of the lord. and they really aspire to create more damage so there is all whole idea of acceleration with the movement. they for have forgotten of the idea. what they are now trying to do is accelerate through violence were there is mass chaos with a whole world of scorched because they believe they will survive. it's not about leaders there are leaders and figureheads but it's not about the group structure so much was a pretty small group will wolf terrace. but it's not about reporting to the hierarchy because law enforcement did a wonderful job to infiltrate these groups and started to take down the leadership they said no more groups we will be a lone wolf we will indoctrinate you and each other but you will not be a card-carrying member or a director to oversee you. it is your responsibility in your job to recruit people and send them off. >> they are influen

very difficult circumstances, war, go back to the inspector general's report after the trials of timothy mcveigh the handling of evidence within the fbi and other things that were done within the justice department. they can be inconvenient and highly critical, but they are meant to be transparent and to hold these bureaucracies to account. that's why you have people who are political and people who are not political in these agencies. it helps to make the government work better even if it doesn't work well all the time. the notion of a president saying i'll purge anyone who is not loyal. that doesn't happen in a democratic system. >> speaking of mike pompeo as alex marquardt just reported, we believe -- he changed his tune a bit in terms of what they think the origin of the coronavirus was. so let's remind people back on may 3rd, this is what secretary of state pompeo said about where he thinks it began. >> mr. secretary, have you seen anything that gives you high confidence that it originated in that wuhan lab? >> there's enormous evidence that that's where this began. >> he at that time sayin

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