unification and in cork we cross to geoffrey roberts he is emeritus professor of history at university college cork and a member of the royal irish academy all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated let me go to john and paris 1st i mean 30 it's been 30 years now believe it or not because i remember it so vividly when it happened a few months before i had been living in poland for a number of years and an avid student of eastern european communist affairs at the time john 30 years on what is its meaning because i look at cursory reviews of you know that in commenting on it it is the people's power the rise of the spring of nations in eastern europe but that's a kind of a narrative that is very western i suppose but i lived there it was i don't have that same kind of feel for it ok though having said that i'm very glad those communist regimes are gone and the wall go ahead john. you know well like you peter i lived through those events very directly like you i was studying eastern european studies at oxford at that point i spent

internet project and in court we have geoffrey robertson he is america's professor of history at university college cork and a member of the royal irish academy his latest book is churchill and stalin comments in arms during the 2nd world war right gentlemen crossed off roles in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want in the house appreciate it or let me 1st go to a demon here in moscow you know dma here we go again this is almost like our tradition with our calling jeffrey we do this every single year commemorating victory in europe over fascism and for every single year that we do it we find ourselves in more and more in a revisionist moment here i mean as i understand as we're sitting down doing our chat right now is that facebook has banned a colorized version of the of the soviet banner over europe and the very very iconic one of showing victory in europe and you know i've searched around it's a true story i mean what in the world is going on here the black and white version seems to be acceptable the color when not are there different meanings or is this a revisionist cell and why in th

internet project and in court we have geoffrey robertson he is america's professor of history at university college cork and a member of the royal irish academy his latest book is churchill and stalin comrades in arms during the 2nd world war right gentlemen crossed out roles in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want the house appreciate it or i let me 1st go to the demon here in moscow you know dma here we go again this is almost like our tradition with our calling jeffrey we do this every single year commemorating victory in europe over fascism and for every single year that we do it we find ourselves more and more in a revisionist mode here i mean as i understand as we're sitting down doing our chat right now is that facebook has banned a colorized version of the of the soviet banner over europe the very very iconic one of showing victory in europe.

unification and in cork we cross to geoffrey roberts he is emeritus professor of history at university college cork and a member of the royal irish academy all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated let me go to john and paris 1st i mean 30 it's been 30 years now believe it or not because i remember it so vividly when it happened a few months before i had been living in poland for a number of years and an avid student of eastern european communist affairs at the time john 30 years on what is its meaning because i look at cursory reviews of you know that in commenting on it it is the people's power the rise of the spring of nations in eastern europe but that's a kind of a narrative that is very western i suppose but i lived there it was i don't have that same kind of feel for it ok though having said that i'm very glad those communist regimes are gone and the wall go ahead john. you know well like you peter i lived through those events very directly like you i was studying eastern european studies at oxford at that point i spent