let's talk more about the story now with boris forman he's a political science professor at bard college in berlin with a focus on the u.s. forest good to see you those are very moving images we saw from that ceremony of the u.s. do you think this is a turning point a moment of change. well i mean unfortunately we're used to a certain continuity in these stories there's too many african-american men in particular who have been killed without any new reason without even having a gun on them so. but well this is there is a continuity i think this is a new degree of a shock of global shock i think one thing that's different from everything we've seen before is that both the pandemic and this race is endemic is seen as a global problem not just as a national problem i think this is certainly signaling a change well if we look at the issue in the u.s. in particular some people are wondering what what effect that this unrest that we've seen in the u.s. will have on voters what is your perspective on that. it's a little early to tell because we still have a couple of months in deep presidential