welcome back to worlds apart with david henderson a research fellow with the hoover institution at stanford university dr henderson our discussion about the 1000 is enough to get us into hot water but i want to push both of us into an even more controversial territory and that is the racial tensions in the united states and i want to start with the data. the conventional now almost obligatory a wisdom is that. you know why the privilege of white supremacy continues exerting. its having a hand on black communities is that supported by the economic data and can you actually calculate the impact of racism on the people who leave right now. ok so i wouldn't put it so much as white privilege i think if i look at my life i don't see that i was privileged i grew up in a cafe that a final. well guess what the only thing i have is my brain and so if i outsource my brain to others and let them say what's true i'm in way hot hot or water and then being accused of having white privilege so if you think of privilege as having something to do with well i grew up in a distinctly non wealthy family now the

like these have led him to advocate for a major, and i mean major reopening of the country for david hendersonds fellow with stanford's hoover institution joins me now. we are told that the lockdown saved millions of lives.av but what does the data actually show? >> well, that was based on a really project faulty projection on the imperial college of london and their projection was more than ten times the right number. the best studies and so far believe it or not is from berkeley and they found social distancing measures plus harsh shelter in place measures saved about 74,000 lives. and even that is an exaggeration for two reasons prefers we've had a major increase in suicides because it is very hard for people to live this way. and second there is a in germany that says, you know what? a lot of these deaths are so much the delma prevented as well as delayed, as until a vaccine s along people are going to the de later. we haven't had saving of lives but we had clearly over a trillion dollars in costs to the u.s. economy and that's not even counting the $2.2 trillion bill that nancy pelosi pus

. >> let's bring in david henderson into this conversation a former assistant d.a. in bear county, texas, these days a civil rights lawyer in private practice. counselor, let's pick up on blayne's last point, would any of this be happening today without the video? >> absolutely not. and we know that because nothing happened initially. and even if we consider the action is being taken now between february and the current date, that's a very long time for a murder charge to go without being indicted. that's a consistent thread between this case and other cases in the news recently, these evens being recorded on tape has been what's necessary to push important changes. >> and counselor, give us some idea of how a case is built when you're handed that piece of video evidence, we can see -- we can see him on foot. we can see these two other actors. we can see not only firearms but the muzzle flash and then we know there's a third actor, the person who's observing all this and took the time and trouble to vid videotape this, so how do you go from that and the death of a y

officer and senior vice president for justice initiatives at the center for policing equity and david hendersondui task force. take us through both of you where we are to place our expectations and hopes given that this is a law enforcement decision, these are charging decisions but they come at an historic moment for our country. >> with respect to what you see on the video, i expect to see the d.a. announce a murder charge with respect to the killing of mr. brooks. it's straightforward in terms of the presentation and what the facts lay out. at the time the lethal shots were fired the officer knew that he didn't have a lethal weapon on possession. he had a taser. what's good for the goose is good for the gander. police officers use tasers all the time claiming they are nonlethal force. >> tracey, same question to you. >> i agree. i expect to hear and see the same thing. what you have to take into account is this moment in time that we're in. typically something like this would take longer to investigate, so know that there has been pressure put to get this resolved, charges out to the public

cbs' david martin is across the river from d.c. at joint base meyer-hendersonl. >> reporter: 500 soldiers packed their gear and headed home, the order. to pull out came quickly, and army chief of staff james mcconville explained why. >> the last thing we want to do is commit active-duty soldiers in our cities. only at the absolute last resort, only in the most extreme conditions. >> reporter: their pepper spray and tear gas is already packed but each soldier is still carrying his assault rifle. combat troops poised for action just outside the nation's capital. fort meyer is the high ground commanding the district of columbia. every night, from 5:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m., hundreds of soldiers were on alert up here ready to roll into the city on 30 minutes' notice. president trump ordered them to d.c. just hours before he walked across lafayette park using the chairman of the joint chiefs as a prop. it was mortifying for the american military and unnecessary, since the protests were no longer violent. >> those conditions are not here in washington, d.c. that's why yo

everything else while to discuss that i'm now joined by david handler senay research fellow with the hoover institution at stanford university professor henderson it's good to talk to you thank you very much for your time but you're now one of the things that has been possible in me throughout the call that 900 pandemic is that in many countries it's economists spread merrily liberally minded economists who are very much in favor of the strictest lowdown possible while many epidemiologists and other public health professionals are a forum or are reserved about such tools mashers how do you explain that what i think it what economists did early on starting in march that was university of chicago study was they took the most extreme.

everything else while to discuss that i'm now joined by david handlers and a research fellow with the hoover institution at stanford university professor henderson it's good to talk to you thank you very much for your time and your show now one of the things that has been possible in the us throughout the call this 19 pandemic is that in many countries it's economists spread merrily liberally minded economists who are very much in favor of the.

everything else while to discuss that i'm now joined by david handers and a research fellow with the hoover institution at stanford university professor henderson it's good to talk to you thank you very much for your time. now one of the things that has been possible in me is that all of the call that 19 pandemic is that in many countries it's economists primarily liberally minded economists who are very much in favor of the strictest lowdown possible while many it could mean all interest and other public health professionals are a forum or are reserved about such. matters how do you explain that. what i think it what economists did early on starting in march there was a university of chicago study was they took the most extreme. model which was the imperial college of london model which has been shown to be fundamentally flawed and they said ok let's take that as given and then let's look at let's kind of see what policies will save how many lives and they came up with us an astounding measure 1760000 wives which now by the way birch really no one believes but i mean that's what they said and then they took this value of a statistical life tha

everything else while to discuss that i'm now joined by david harmed and a research fellow with the hoover institution at stanford university professor henderson it's good to talk to you thank you very much for your time and your.