robert: andrea: drea, you spoke with the former pice chief of camden, new jersey and went to a >> we are a nation that that has we shall going to invest in community strength as oppose todd try to treat with with jails and more expensive and worsens the problems that we claim we are trying to solve. bert: when you talk to these leaders are you seeing a change or like the gun control debate? andrea: right now, there is not a lot of bipartisan action, senator scott, the only african-american senator and leading the charge on the senate de but they are talking about establishing a data best and not banning chokeholds and the things that the house democrats havepo pd and that legislation is going to pass and we heard today from a mum of the house democrats, they have the and something bigger and better from the president, late tonigh he might be in favor of banning chokeholds and unclear what h might support. and what the republicans are lookingt. i think something wil happen. as w emp s and h is on the ground and we have wauched the protests there ia different tone and widespread. for s

well, a drea kron 4 staying on top of breaking news out of sassoon city tonight we've been following the scene for the last few hours of a major wildfire that is continuing to burn out of control. we just got off the phone with fire officials there is a sin city they tell us as many as 8 homes have now burned as a result of this massive wildfire that is burning out of control in an area near kellogg's street and cornelia street there is a sin city. we do know that there is a major fire response there on that scene from contra costa. calif fire. the forestry service as well as valais ho fire crews as well you can see an aerial view of the scene that is continuing to play out once again as many as 8 homes have now burned as a result of this massive fire. we do not know any injuries as of yet we'll continue to follow this story for you throughout the night on kron on and kron 4 dot com and tonight on prime time starting at 8 o'clock. a world war 2 relic is stolen during protests. but the reason why may surprise you. jeremy roth has that and more in today's take a look at this. >>in neva

you're very experienced, you are an example of the american drea dream.n the media and hollywood you've seen them talk about systemically racist and so many of them do not live in these communities. maybe they came from these communities, they live in these communities that are quote unquote racist and they send their send their kids to these schools that are quote unquote systemically racist. does that kind of hypocrisy, someone like you who has come out of inner-city system, does that frustrate you. >> the poverty i came out i was a rural poverty and what i noticed as a student and faculty member is that a lot of people who have been privileged whether their white, black or hispanic, the more privileged they are the more they feel the need to use that language of systemic racism and i think of been driven by guilt. they feel guilty because they're prospering and it's very problematic to me that the people who make public policy from ivy league schools, they know nothing about the topic they are trying to solve so maybe they did research or were in a phd

experts tell us if were going to have an enlightened civilized society we need a memory and we need drea dreams. you don't -- were not going to have a need dreams left if we erase the memory. that's what i'm afraid all of this statue -- >> bill: that's interesting. you point out mary magdalene and your piece. that's where you begin. >> i recall an anecdote when i was in another place where i was assigned. we opened up a new parish and i suggested to the name st. peter. he was one of the people closest to jesus and i got this letter saying, he was a sinner, he denied him three times when he needed it most on three times on good friday. i said, i know you. you're from st. mary magdalene. do you want to change that name? we all have the light and darkness. >> bill: i want to share this with our viewers. this is what you writes. it literature that depicts prejudice, words are scenes that are rightly a port is to be banned, i don't know if the bible can survive. if we only honor perfect, saintly people of the past, i'm left with the cross and some people would be in that. what's the approach?

drea ritchie is a researcher at barnard college. she is the author of "invisible no more: police violence against black women and women of color." for joining us. thanks so much earlier in the show, just before this segment, we heard a discussion about rayshard brooks' case in atlanta. this happened on friday. already that officer has been fired. shere's talk of criminal charge against him. breonna taylor was killed three months ago. the officers are still on the force. they're on administrative reassignment. and as far as we know publicly the investigation has had very , ttle movement. ry little public movement. what do you make of that difference? i definitely think that it has to do with how we see and understand violence and who it impacts and how it's impactedden i think it alsohas to do with the jurisdiction. it's long past time for those officers to be fired. fand it's long past tim her family to receive the they're owed a deserved.ha i think part of it is about how we understand state violenurce. i think understanding of sta

i want to go to an drea sullivan, james madison institute of technology innovation director. andrea, i wanted to talk to you about the whole facebook stuff and pile-on of advertisers or companies saying we want nothing to do with you, but ahead of that, the virus thing, from your vantage point and impact on the technology sector largely resistant to it, if anything benefiting from it but do you see that bigger picture continuing? facebook and social media guys not withstanding. >> sure, i mean if there is one thank that has helped us through the pandemic it has been communication technologies, right? for the 1/3 or so portion of american workers able to work from home, having, you know, strong internet connections, having great communications technologies, i'm talking to you right now over skype, that has been so important, to that extent i think we'll continue to see, you know, to the extent there is a need there, there will be demand and growth in that sector, but you know, there are some things technology can't fix. unfortunately the broader employment situation with peopl