for example, mike brown's case was dropped because the prosecutor didn't go after it aggressively.ell, that was a prosecutor that never went after any police misconduct aggressively. so it matters keith ellison is in that spot. and i want people to keep in mind nationally as we seek these refor refo reforms and accountability for law enforcement, accountability is the first training that officers need. accountability, you should be trained that you will be held accountable when you violate the human rights, civil liberties and civil rights of the people you're sworn to serve. that has to be in place. but i think now we're going to see some improvement in the process and i'm hopeful we don't lose our commitment. the urgency of the moment, right, keeps everybody kind of sincere in their commitment in the space we're in now. but historically we've seen case after case as attorney crump rattled off earlier today we have this energy and then we fall back to the default of white supremacy dominating everything by the sheer wait of its constant existence since this country was founded. th

so, i would give the names of mike brown, eric garner, tamir rice, philando castile, and most peoplest audiences would be still be standing. then i would say the names of michelle cuseso, tamishia anderson. india beatty. maya hall, taylor moore. by the time i got to the second name, pretty much everybody had already taken their seats. you could actually hear the sound of people sitting down. i call that the, you know, the sound of the silence. the sign of marginality. it's that we haven't heard these names because we don't have stories, the ability to say, oh, i recognize that story. you start a story what police violence against black men looks like, you are walking down the street and police roll up on you. and then it goes back. people get that. but the story is you're sleeping in your own bed at 1:00 in the morning and no one knows how to really complete that story. so that's part of the problem. because we don't tell the story, people are not familiar with them. when they're not familiar with them, they can't hold the names of black women who have been killed by the police. ther

and finally warriors assistant coach mike brown will reportedly interview for the new york knicks opening coaching position. brown has been on steve kerr staff since 2016 before that he was the cleveland cavaliers and los angeles lakers head coach. he led lebron james and the cavs to the 20 suppose 2007, i'm sorry nba finals. it was named coach of the year after the cavs won 66 games. the warriors went 12 in the 2017 playoffs when brown had to step in for steve kerr due to his back issues. they went on to beat the cavs in the finals and 5 games that postseason he has a 305 in 87 career record. that is your look at sports back to you guys. >>thank you jason coming up the amazon driver who can only be described as a really really good sport. we'll explain. and delaware teenager and an amazon delivery driver getting a lot of attention after the 13 year-old boy played a prank. >>jacob he added something to his mother's a amazon order putting in extra delivery instructions, writing knock on the door 3 times scream abracadabra as light as you can and run superfast away. here's how that went. th

louis years ago before ferguson really popped off after the killing of mike brown.could see that division. you could see it in city of st. louis. you could see it especially here in ferguson, where a large percentage of the population here is black, and a lot of the people that controlled it, a large percentage of that was white. and then when everything happened, obviously that exposed some of the deep divisions that were inherent here. she lived through all of that. she has been here for 40 years, saw the cooks, saw the protests, decide -- she was spurred to action by that. and became the first black city council member in 2015. so she is used to blazing trails. but i think that just in speaking to people in town, it's given people a sense of hope, a sense of there is progress being made both here in ferguson and across the country. i think they feel, and she feels like because they've been through it so poignantly and so specifically all those six years ago now that maybe they can have a few lessons for everybody else to learn. and those lessons came from hard wo

the reason why an emotional response is that when they see trayvon martin, mike brown, sandra bland, they don't recognize their own children in them. >> reporter: they don't see themselves. chelsea, what has changed for you? >> my children identify as mostly plaque mostly black, in the community, you know. and i relate to twyla, because my children are at the age where my 5-year-old said that's black and you're white so i'm brown. and someday my 5-year-old will not have a tiny5-year-old face anymore. and we won't have tiny hands. he'll be a grown man. >> a brown man in america. >> yeah. and he'll be somebody people are afraid of. sometimes it breaks my heart. not something i ever thought i wasn't prepared to deal with, and now i see from the perspective of people who have always had to. >> reporter: for cole, crystal's son, though he says hate and bias are part of his world, hope, he adds, is too. how much hope do you have that things will be different by the time you have your children? >> i'm extremely hopeful, and i want to do everything in my power to help out and do anything i c

release add tied a time line showed some of the black women that were killed between the time of mike brown and george floyd, that people just don't know about. they just really don't know that black women are also killed by the police. if you broaden the framework, you see there are other circumstances we have to really pay attention to. one is that police are often the first responders in mental health crises. they are the last ones to be able to respond effectively to mental health crises because to a police officer, every person who isn't following their commands or doesn't want to get in the police car, regardless of whether they've committed any crime and most of them have not, look like the same kind of problem for which excessive force is used, so tanisha anderson killed within two weeks of tamir rice. no crimes, just a mental health crises, and they did the same kind of action on her that they did on george floyd. we don't know about it, and because we don't know about it, we can't say, you know what? we need another response to mental health crises. fortunately, fran garrett, who

and so all the families of you and me today, mike brown. the 46-year-old will be buried next to his mother on tuesday only invited guests will be permitted to attend. however the funeral will be televised live by cbs news. >> as protests across the nation continue, health experts fear that it could contribute to a surge in the coronavirus. we already have seen some new hot spots for covid-19 cropping up. and now densely packed protests could add to it all. demonstrators need to be aware of the potential risk of infecting others. and if you are sick, stay home. >> you can't fight if you're sick or if your community is sick. again we have made so much sacrifice today. the simple things we could do, wear a mask when you're out in those groups. the second thing is to remember that outdoors is probably the safest place to be and those who are not wearing masks, a recipe for disaster. the next thing to remember, they should still apply wherever we can. >> and health officials, they're worried this could reverse the progress that we have made here

award winning st louis filmmaker chrysalis lives just a few meters from where mike brown was shot has a unique perspective on the divisions that remain in ferguson today i've lived in ferguson in excess of 13 years. you know this is basically this was home for me but in this part of town this is where all of your social public services are this is where your economic development is emphasizing this is predominately where or for the most part where most of your white residents stay. so as we go on to this overpass here that's going to be pretty much we're going to approach this intersection of ferguson avenue and west florissant that's where the big standoff between the people in the police were. you know it was pretty much a peaceful protest people were standing on the ground you know sitting on the ground people had their hands up. and it was just you know it was just a standoff in v.n. as the evening progressed and i got to around like 9 10 o'clock. that's when the other activities kicked off. and that's the actual spot where the quake sure was and that got burned down so it's on th

i mean, i went to the protests in ferguson for mike brown.rotests, but not one look this in a tomb luke, i mean, like this. i think especially with all the stuff that was happening with quarantine, so kind of just being around that many people at once was, it was a lot. it was different. it was a different energy, i think, because none of us had been anywhere in a while. >> jimmy: were you thinking about what you might say if you were confronted with, in this case, national guard? had you thought about that before you said what you said? >> no. i didn't plan on really seeing nub li anybody out there like that out there. we were just marching, walking, i hadn't been around much people in a while, so i really, really wanted to be out there and protest for this cause. and then i saw, though, the national guardsmen, and they were like blocking us from going further with the peaceful protest. and i think in that moment i was just kind of, i was weirded out a bit and kind of confused i think from a genuine, naÏve place of being confused as to why t

however, senator mike brown has introduced legislation a scale of that qualified immunity, this qualified immunity aligned in the same and have you seen this bill. >> the bottom line, we support the justice and policing act, we support all the provisions and we want to work hard to get in that direction. the way mcconnell has done it, we will never get there. >> i answered your question. >> are you confident that you're going to have the support of everyone in your caucus. >> here is the bottom line, we are still asking mcconnell to set up a bipartisan process so we can avoid the debacle that will occur if he moves to the floor. there is no question about it. we want a bipartisan screen that can actually get a bill passed in the senate, we do not want a political show, no one. no one has detailed away under mcconnell's plan that we get to a bill that can pass. >> next. >> to have a timetable when you can move something meaningful. >> as soon as the republicans come to the conclusion maybe today, maybe tomorrow that we need a bipartisan bill in the process to get there. that's when we will

racial inequalities and the systemic issues that we always look at this these big instances of mike brown. we look at the-- what's happening in minnesota with george floyd. but what we don't look at as a prosecutor are those everyday slights that individuals who have mistrust with the criminal justice system, that people need law enforcement the most in these communities. they're frustrated and they're tired. i mean, as a prosecutor, i'm thinking about accountability and how do we root out individuals who cause harm to the community regardless of their occupation? >> sreenivasan: how should a prosecutorance out the needs to enforce the law, workinwith police and the systemic shortcomings and inequalities that you're pointing to? >> as a prosecutor, we have to be about addressing the root causes of the mistrust in the system. and that means holding everybody accountable. and that's what we have to do. so it's not about certain groups are being with, you know, whether we support law enforcement or not. we support justice and that's our job. >> sreenivasan: in the case of the plain view proj

body cameras as a result of protests, that ferguson leaders led in relationship to the murder of mike brown, maybe today what we get is better training or nicer police, but fundamentally there's still a big challenge that we're facing, which is what do we do about the roll of law enforcement in our community? is it enough to have better training or to restrict their practices? or do we actually need to narrow the focus and role of law enforcement in the first place? and it's an important conversation for america to have right now. for some it's an uncomfortable one but i can say seven years ago "black lives matter" made people uncomfortable and being uncomfortable is good for the condition tri. people were uncomfortable when black people were fighting for the right to be enfran franklin -- enfranchised and when women were fighting to become franklin cheesed and now look where we have come. it's not uncomfortable pea e believe that women should have the right and black people so have the right to vote. does it mean the rights are not still under attack? absolutely not but we're in a differen

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is is in some ways her death kicked off saying her name michelle was killed 5 days after mike brown was killed there was no media attention there was no conversation there was this growing consciousness of course about black people being killed by the police the intolerable dimension of it but no mention her name until fran garrett michelle's mother said somebody in the recognize that my daughter has been killed so she took michelle's cough and to the city hom to mend attention to the fact that her daughter lost her life not because she did anything wrong heard a lot of. family. call when someone called for a mental health pick up order for her daughter who was suffering from schizophrenia and the police decided that they were going to break into her home when she didn't want to come out and within seconds of the encounter the officer had shot at through the heart that's what we're looking at black black women are not safe in the street they're not safe in their homes they're not safe in their own bodies and they're not they're not removed morry allies in death because this loss of life

>> not only the rodney king incident, but we saw mike brown in ferguson, missouri and the choking death they tried to tell us wasn't a choking death. every death at the hands the errant police officers, the reason we are here is because police departments have yet to have an appetite for dealing with police officers who use deadly force as a first resort, not a last resort. chauvin had 18 complaints. it is not like the police department didn't know who he was. and the other officer tau, the city paid $25,000 for knocking the teeth out of a man. >> i want you to listen, with that in mind, listen to this from a chief in the new york city police department. >> well, i am a black man but love being a police officer. i am not resigning. i want to be sure everybody is safe. >> when you hear that from him, what is your response? >> listen, i am a proud member of the los angeles police department. i think we have a role and a part to play. unless there are people like me and that captain, we can't stop errant officers like aaron dean. imagine if someone looked like me when he pulled out his gun

a host mike. brown was taken out of school in april 2014 and brought to syria by his parents his stepfather was a friend of the islamist militant mohammed merah he was shot dead by french police after he murdered 7 people including children at a jewish school. french authorities lost all trace of the propaganda video is the last time he was seen alive. videos of this kind designed by islamic state to search in the west by raising the specter of a new generation of merciless fighters. recruited and trained by the jihadist group these children say western intelligence agencies pose a serious danger. even after the caliph its defeat in the field tens of thousands of us fighters remain in iraq internment camps. they include some 5000 children and teenagers among them several 100 who came from europe. most were recruited to the islamic state by their own parents. parts of northern iraq semi autonomous kurdish region were among the longest held i-s. territories this is all that remains of cinder. the city was

you go to ferguson or mike brown was killed, these things happen not just because there have been otherragic deaths but because there is a brewing frustration among african-americans that they are not living the full extent of the american dream. for $14 trillion in reparations to the black community. walk us through your thought process on that number and what that would solve. bob: let me deal with the thought process on the number. from african american slavery through jim crow is him and the denial of certain equal rights, it has been -- it has led to a chasm of economic inequality. that inequality came about because wealth transfers took place from african-american slaves to white owners of farms and otherwise. onn they use that money additional law throughout the country. you have another transfer whenever and americans were denied equal education opportunities. rumor we had separate and equal education? education being a path to wealth. you add another wealth transfer when you take into account the homeownership development in the u.s.. who haveo are at home a mortgage can deduct

in ferguson there was a report down about the mike brown case. when you dig into the doj report, it shows you that ferguson, they were policing for profit. right you? wonder why the community didn't like them? it's because they were using traffic spots and the bell system to makeup for the budget loss they had. it affected black america. that's why they felt like you were targeting them. >> melissa: yes. dagen, it's frustrating to watch this go on as it is to so many. we have been having these same conversations about policing for decades. i felt like president obama had a chance to top down reform or set a new set of rules. whatever the changes needed to be made across the board and implement it on a community level. we have had a long opportunity for that. why haven't we done that? >> maybe you can't handle this from the top down. from the federal level. this is a local and state issue. when we talk about someone 2 dies in the custody of police, it doesn't -- those statistics and their stories and their deaths, but it doesn't go to the heart of

senator rick scott of florida, senator john cornyn of texas, senate kramer of north dakota and mike browna. >> the president said that he could be an antifa provauk tour and that he fell harder than he was pushed. is that appropriate. >> as i said, what we've been talking about, here in the senate, republican conference is what we think is the response to the events over the last few weeks. >> i didn't see it so i'd have to -- i mean, you know, i'm sure that my office will be able to get me a copy of it. >> what do you make of the president's tweet this morning and does the president need to be more cautious? >> i saw the -- but, you know, that he had fallen and so -- but -- >> i just saw the tweet. >> i don't think it is surprising because he tweets a lot. >> i just read the tweet but i don't know the reference point. >> it doesn't shock me that they come out often. >> as i said, we are discussing in the senate republican conference what response we think is appropriate to the events of the last two weeks. she was only 17. find an honor your ancestors who served in world war ii. their st

drama drama drama there now warriors assistant coach mike brown will reportedly interview for the nework knicks opening head coaching job. brown has been on steve kerr staff since 2016 before that he was the head coach for the cavs and the lakers. he led lebron james and the cavs to the 27 22,007 nba finals and was named coach of the year in 2008. the warriors went 12 into 2017 postseason when brown had to step in as head coach due to steve kerr is back issues. he has a 305 187 career record. that's your look at sports specter. you guys that's a good record. thank you jason southern california a big old brown bear was spotted wandering around the neighborhood today. >>you see he was caught hanging out in some backyards, what is that walking on wall is that. >>he'd get hot nobody stopped them imagine that some people are actually wondering if this is the same bear the people so roaming around near los angeles mission college and rummaging through some trash cans earlier in the day. they do look alike in order to move the animal wildlife officials tranquilized and you can seeing there i

we have been there before with the mike brown and others, but with what happened in the last two weeks, you had arbery gunned down and the others. and now with george floyd, there is a lot at stake. when there is an absence of information, absence of transparency, it will be filled with gas and heat. we are seeing some of that. people want to see justice even though time and again it is not clear that many folks, black folks especially, knows what justice is. that's where we are. in that conversation with keith ellison, that wasn't lost. he said it was to bring the full weight of the state to bear on this case. i believe there is something symbolic. maybe you will have a better shot here. not sure what the governor is saying. but that's what is at stake. you hear the president talking about dominating the streets and appointing soldiers into the community. we have seen it time and again, the response to violence is armored tanks. you have seen what is playing out in new york city, broken windows. many of those young people have nothing but anger and hurt and rage in their bellies. we h

as we told you last week, senator mike brown of indiana has entered legislation to make it easier for left-wing activists to sue police officers. we must do this, senator braun explained in part because rayshard brooks' death was egregious. >> i wanted to put a template out there that protects law enforcement from frivolous lawsuits but holds the egregious departments accountable in these instances of george floyd a rayshard brooks over breonna taylor. >> tucker: in case you suspect we somehow selectively edited that clip, here he is going all the way in endorsing black lives matter. >> do you support the black lives matter movement? >> i support that movement because it is addressing in an equity that has not been solved from a grassroots level. >> tucker: after a segment on thursday, asked to come on this show to detail his position and of course be happy to have him, thank you so much for coming on. before i ask you about qualified immunity and your attempts to water it down, i was very surprised by that endorsement that you gave on camera of black lives matter, black lives matter

warriors assistant coach mike brown will reportedly interview for the new york knicks open head coaching job. brown has been on steve kerr staff since 2016, before that he was the head coach for the cavs and the lakers. he led the calf to the 2007 nba finals and he was named the coach of the year just one year later. the warriors win 12 and o in the 2017 postseason when brown had to step in as head coach due to steve kerns back issues. he has a 305 187 career record. so he's been a valuable part of steve kerr staff that's all i have for sports back to you guys all right jason, thank you movie and music news to start off our week, here's david daniel with the hollywood minute. >>should be locked away as the world us. the truth is the world is ruled. corruption and cream. >>certain that here's your first look at the latest trailer for the kings man the prequel to the king's men movies, re fines and gemma arterton lead our heroes against history's worst tyrants and criminal masterminds when the king's men opens in theaters september 18. >>little baby has pulled off a rare feat the atlanta r

hear it i mean oh my gosh, it-- it really started, the cat list for the song was-- cat list was mike brownnd so you hear these stories and you hear their store-- stories and these in these lyrics. and the devastating thing is that it is never not going to be relevant. and where we are right now in this world and in this country and in america in particularly, we are in a real, a real place that we can all see, that there is a major, this is the most major pandemic of all. you know, this deeply rooted racism, this police brutality, this treatment of black people that is just completely unacceptable to the point where daily we are seeing, you know, lives lost, people murdered, for nothing, for being black, you know. and so this song really does encapsulate that and also the fire of the city that we're all in, the fire of energy of the rallies and prot tests being and the outrage and the place where we will not be silent any more. and it says i guess you picked the perfect way to die, is there a perfect way it die? it is so powerful, and i'm just honored that this song can be alive in this ti

me mike brown in ferguson. i can keep naming names and it will just get more and more disgusting and aggravating to the point that we want to look away and we can't. and it's not stopping. so, until the police start to see the people that they are policing as human beings this is what's going to continue. and it's not lost, again, on black people that they do not see this. that man running away from rashard brooks does not look like that guy's uncle or brother or son or friend or anything. so he's not even registering that's a human being whose life he's taking. and i know all cops are not bad, but please, if you don't want people to think you are, we are desperately asking you to do better. >> the mayor of atlanta, kesha lance bottoms has received a lot of praise. i want you to listen to what she said earlier about this fatal police shooting. >> what has become abundantly clear over the last couple weeks in atlanta is that while we have a police forceful of men and women who work alongside our communities with

weekend about what happened after 2014 and all the protests we saw following the police murdering of mike brown in ferguson, missouri, and they said tens of millions of dollars was invested in all of these de-escalation, implicit bias, so many reforms we're hearing about and nothing moved the needle on the 1,000 people that are killed every year by police officers and the article basically said what the protesters are saying, that unless we make big and bold changes to the way we police, we're going to be right back here, not -- i can't even say a month from now, because we were right back here over the weekend with mr. brooks in atlanta. trump hasn't done anything other than insult the protesters. >> areva martin, thank you. >> thanks, breonna. >> i want to turn now to atlanta where, as soon as tomorrow, we could see a decision on charges for both officers involved in the deadly shooting of rayshard brooks. this is happening as we get a first look now at the disciplinary records of the fired officer who shot brooks, garret rolfe. in 2017, he was reprimanded for use of force involving a firearm

daughter who had been killed within the same period of time between the death of eric garner and mike browng their names, many people didn't know that black women were killed by the police. when we did say their names, some folks were shocked. other folks were irritated because they understand police violence to be an issue facing african-american men. this is partly because the frames that we have foray cy ra violence is typically lynching. police killing, basically lynching, is very close. sometimes police officers were involved in lynching. black women are also lynched. they're killed by police. driving while black. they're also killed in ways that are sometimes dercifferent. they're more likely to be killed in their homes. they're killed in front of their children. they are killed in front of their parents. largely this killing goes on in silence, partly because the media don't talk about those cases. breonna was one of the only ones that was a high profile case. sandra brand is another black woman that people know. say her name is a demand we say their names to tell their stories. only

warriors assistant mike brown is interviewing to become the next head coach of the dreadful new yorkcks. brown has been at steve kerr's side since 2016. previously head coach of the cavs and lakers. he's now the 10th candidate for the knicks' vacancy they're interviewing, along with jason kidd. >>> do you remember the tv show "the american gladiators?" tonight's call my play video is a remake, except the gladiators are normal people. the competitor in this case is a little kid. >> three, two, one. >> the game is simple. shoot a nerf dot into a barrel. only one problem. you have to avoid the rain of foam starts coming your way. not to worry, 4-year-old drew is nerf battle tested. oh, close call. only two chances remain. near miss. each chair provides protection and another shot at glory. down to the final station. he got it! hey, drew, we just called your play on abc 7. >> quite the setup in the backyard. send me your video so we can put you on tv. dan, i know you remember "american gladiator," blaze and nitro and hawk and all these guys. >> i do, too. >> ama, i thought you might be t

mike, the best piece of advice you gave me some years ago after we talked about what happened to mike brown in ferguson and you said, brooke, make sure you have friends that don't look like you, don't go to the same church as you and i want you to, for folks who are not on the inside of the conversation and especially in this climate, why is that so damn important. >> it is important because my friends are the short brothers who helped produce my album and a -- who directed my television show and jaggy malline and brother and rap partner and my friends are diverse tapestry of people and like seth gold bloom tells us, you're representing and connecting people by be willing to befriend and ally and be brothers and sisters with people who aren't like us and it is high time we do it. racism has only existed for 500 years because the catholic church gave permission to the portuguese and the spanish to subjugate human beings to use some for labor. we know that. we could undo that. jaden elliott told us we could do it in 20 years and that is why i advise all of my white friends to watch our blue e

eric garner was choked to death by police officers in new york and said "i can't breathe, and when mike browntt in south carolina, the state you're from, and, you know, there was a pretty sustained kind of movement around policing reform during those years, and there's a through line to this. but i do think that this moment has brought out something a little bit different and certainly stronger. as you point out, there are protests happening in 50 states. the crowds are multiracial and diverse and they're not going away, and i think there's something about this george floyd murder and watching and spending those excruciating eight minutes together watching a man beg for his life and watching the casualness of this officer with his hands in his pockets know heg's been videotaped, that i i think it just shifted something. that's what happened in civil rights, these moments happen that capture the imagination that pull at our hearts and that galvanize people behind the kind of core people focus opened civil rights and those are the moments you have to ride the wave of change and try to sustain i

mike brown, was important. these people are all important. breanna taylor was important. 's these people are important. we can't forget about them. we cannot. we can't forget about them. >> reporter: describe emotions you've been feeling for george floyd and -- >> dow jon.j. henry happened in small town. a police officer shot him in front of all of his classmates. in front of -- in front of university students. then they turned their guns on those same university students. for ten years we've been fighting the same fight. ten years of my adult life i have been saying justice. it's been too long and longer than my ten years. it's just too much. >> reporter: thank you. what's your name? >> jane doe. >> reporter: thank you so much for speaking to me. so breanna, this is what year seeing here. right? a lot of people out here marching, protesting. pro testing their feelings. talking about how they feel and the frustration they have felt and you can hear that in so many of the chants the black lives matter, and no justice, no peace. they're continuing. we're now at hausman stre

we have been there before with the mike brown and others, but triple nature of last three weeks. breonna taylor shot dead in her house and george floyd to die the way he did, there's a lot of stake here. we've been having these conversations time and again. when there is absence of information and transparence, it will be filled with gas and heat and we're seeing some of that, even seeing the developments, some people want to see justice, even though time and again it's not clear that many folks, black folks especially, know what actual justice is. that's where we are, in the conversation with keith ellison, i don't think any of the weight was lost. he was appointed for a reason. he said to bring full weight of the state and all its resources to bear on this case. but there's something symbolic here, you want justice, at least maybe have a better shot here. not saying that's what governor is thinking but for many people that's what's at stake here. we'll see. right now hear the president talking about dominating the streets and appointing soldiers into these communities and we've

we've had six years since the death of eric garner and sandra bland and mike brown and so many others these procedural reforms, too many of them there's no evidence to support them. they appear to be a kind of window dressing. and even when there is some evidence behind them, they don't get fully implemented. the officers in milwaukee had de-escalation training. they had anti-bias training, they had training that mandates that they intervene when they see misconduct, and none of it worked. >> the mayor of saint paul, minnesota, noted the importance of hiring people who understand the communities that they're going to be working in. take a listen. >> if you have to train someone not to do the things that we've seen these officers do on these videos, then they don't belong on a preeolice department in th first place. it starts with how we hire, who we hire, if they're people who understand and know our community and who feel comfortable and safe in our community to start with. >> how much does this factor into how the police interact with the community that they police? >> on a day-to-d

kajima powell killed shortly after mike brown, 16 seconds from the moment the police officers arriveda butter knife in his hand. same thing. he is dead. and this is why, defund the police talks about shifting dollars to mental health because too many police officers don't know how to deal with people with mental illness or know how to de-escalate. they approach the car with their hand on their gun as if something is going to happen and that is dangerous for black men and others in this country. >> i got a minute left. one of the things, the other thing which you and i used to discuss at length when discussing ferguson is the degree to which pulling young, black people over in their cars is a remarkable source of revenue for many towns across this country. >> yes, absolutely. you have speed traps. revenue generators. and of course cities are built around that. if people go to the website, look at the department of justice's report on ferguson, some 67% of households had outstanding tickets, and so you are taxing the poor with this tail light or this sort of instance. that is the deal.

the time there was nothing i wanted more than to see the conviction of darren wilson who killed mike brown and the punishment of the killer in my honest assessment would have been something which was fitting to create some sort of sense of justice for myself, for many of us throughout the country but most importantly for leslie and her experience even today she still lives tonight community, has seen the killing of her son in that community. we have many situations, george zimmerman, not just police officers that those in similar situations who have not only seemed to not face consequences but in some way shape or form are supported in their continued feeling of being justified for the killing. for me it's a big turning point or a big challenge to move towards an abolitionist framework which would demand that if we are going to abolish something like policing or even abolish imprisonment we would have to move away from this conception of justice as revenge or retribution and think of another way to create justice for the families, for the communities that have been broken apart by the viol

when i compare these to perhaps the 2015 protest involving the death in response to the death of mike brownson, this is definitely multigenerational and multiethnic. there are people at the table involved in the conversation wanting to see change that look very different from what we saw in 2015 and are part of some of the voting blocs that donald trump and republican lawmakers are depending upon to be victorious in november. and the likelihood of them being as successful is not as high without them addressing this issue that protesters want them to pay attention to. >> stephanie, when you look at sports, sports is now -- we talked to malcolm jenkins earlier this week. sports figures, lebron and others are deeply invested in what's happening nationally. you can't separate sports from the rest of america. >> no, you really can't. and you look back at this whole issue, taking a knee in the nfl. back in 2016 with colin kaepernick. you'll remember the entire country was involved in that conversation, whether they were football fans or not. that demonstration during the national anthem became a,