joining me now, rodney phuong, president and ceo of the fran chamber of commerce to talk about how it'sis is the second day of indoor shopping. what are you hearing from the retailers? >> yeah. so far so good. it is day two. members are excited. they've been waiting a long time to get back open. there is he said about a lot of patience and frustration. they opened yesterday. and the word back from our members, it was good opening. not quite exactly there as far as the customer confidence. that will take a little time. so they're excited to keep open and serving those customers. >> i was going to say, the two biggest malls open. do people seem a little hesitant to come back to stores? is that how you're interim rhetting the still emptiness of it all in. >> yes. it will take a little time. we had to slowly back away into shelter-in-place and the reverse will happen. it is very important. we're telling our chamber of commerce members, they need to make sure they're couldn't 58ing the message that they are going through safe practices about cleaning their facilities. but also, ensuring then