. >> and in the long history of human beings, in the entire history of the sapiens, what is the significancef this corona pandemic? >> well, humanankind will obviously survive it. we are much stronger than this virus, andnd we have survivevedh more serious epipidemics in the past, so, there is no question about it. ultimately, the impact of ththi epidememic is not predeterermin. it's up to us. we choose how thisis will end.d. if we choooose wrongly, if we choose nationalistic isolation, if we choose dictators, if we choose to distrurust science a believe consnspiracy theories, e resusult will be, it wilbebe a g catastrophic in history. millllions of f people dying, economic crisis, political chaos. if w we choose wisy, if we chchoose global solidarityty, i choose democratic responsibility, if we choose to belie in scientitific authority, then despite the death, despite the suffering, this will actually, with hindsight, look like a good moment for humankind, a moment when we overcame not just t the virus b a moment when we overcamame our own internal demons, the moment when we ovovcame hatrer