joining us now to talk more about these issues is retired brigadier general, robert spalding, who is a senior fellow at the hudson institute. it's really good to have you on. we have heard president trump accuse china of essentially covering up the coronavirus crisis in those early stages. what is the evidence that we have to that effect? >> will thanks for having me on. yeah, xi jinping announced, was in charge of the coronavirus, on the seventh of january, and of course on the 14th of january, the w.h.o. tweeted there was limited transmission, of course they took that tweet down, at the same time, we know that from the 13th of january to the commonest party of china knew about transmission through immediate reports in china. then of course it continued to allow people to travel, it was a peak travel season because of chinese new year. all the way up until the 23rd of january when they closed. of course when they did that, they also started awarding, acquiring ppe, all of this, while trying to portray that there was no danger from human to human transmission. and pressuring the worl

i saw with general spalding and others report last year entitled defending our data, huawei 5g.my question is to brigadier and to michael. apologies, i been up voting so hope you have been asked already. -- small software firms can effectively engage in building up our new advanced 5g networks, or do you have to have scale? do you have to be a tech giant to be an effective player in this market? thank you. >> general. >> well, you know, so i have lived through this in the u.s. air force. we started back in the early 2000s to shut off our gps and radios. i think the challenge that brings to the military force is a gets us just to kind of fighting in the stone age. and they would forget about the fact that if the stuff gets shut off, we have chaos in the street. we shut off gps and the grid and the cell networks come there's no way we're going to be fighting abroad because we're just going to have to bring peace to the streets. i think we lost focus of our import these technologies have become to our societies just to keep them functioning as civil societies. so no, i think that i

brigadier general robert spalding, former air force general, senior director for strategy for presidenttrump, now senior fellow at the hudson institute and mike rogers, former u.s. army, former fbi, former congressman from michigan and now writing on cyber intelligence and 5g physically in connection with huawei and said he and now chairman of 5g action now. center both very much welcome to market our committee hearing , we must look forward to hearing what you have to say. because of time constraints we will gostraight into it if i may . and invite kevin jones to ask the first question. >> we can't hear kevin so that's an excellent start. kevin is now back. kevin, over the user. >> welcome gentleman. could you give an overview of your concerns about china's involvement in the telecom sector western mark. >> i guess i'll take that and start. very much mister chairman and committee members, the understand after the committee there's a chance for a pipe along the way. i went back for that portion of the committee testimony. and thank you again for that special relationship . i do, i am a

that killing others spalding is normal you see things like somebody who got bombed in their lives every way and the head in the leg is flying somewhere. i can skip those videos but if the quality review figures it talent it is still mark to sonera. i'm only allowed to make 3 arris in a whole month. what i mean when i mean i think there's some money down a lot of the pictures i've seen i don't remember. you might even be getting some of the videos are engraved into your memory. seems like it was a joke. but i'm not we didn't know if it was real you know he was attempting to kill himself using a rope. like you know my knight i need an indian it was like not uploaded. to get enough to really live with maybe thousands of viewers watching it and i know . there were comments like don't do it don't kill yourself don't commit suicide i. know you've been the man you know local but others were joking and go on do it do it. so it could be as long as he hasn't actually committed suicide because he thought you were not allowed to stop his live stream and he thought you know i know you and i yeah him

joining me now retired -- at the nsd, general spalding, i am not surprised in the slightest that general maddox said what he said. i think he is still mad that trump wanted to pull trout -- troops out of the middle east and made them pay what is due. i don't think he liked any of that and he's never much liked trumpets ever sense. >> i think there is a disconnect in washington, d.c. having been part of the national security establishment, you get the impression that people in d.c. working the bureaucracy have forgotten what america is about, have forgotten the american people. you know, the president has a responsibility to protect the american people. we have looting, we have violence, we have destruction of property, and i think he's done what he has to do, and if you need to do more, you can remember that herbert hoover in 1932 called colonel macarthur to clean out to washington, d.c., because the veterans from world war i were protesting. so this is something that the president has authority to do and quite frankly, americans are looking to lead and protect him. i would say one other

let me turn to warden spalding's testimony from the federal medical center in a case called pena versus united states. the warden testified first said that bop and i'm quoting him here said not use covid-19 as a sole determination of reduction in sentence or compassionate release. then he was pressed a little bit and he went on the say i don't consider covid-19 as part of the criteria for reduction of sentence or compassionate release. and he testified that the exemption of covid-19 as part of the criteria for reduction of sentence or compassionate release was based on guidance from quote, based on guidance from central office, which sounds like you. i'm wondering about that and before you answer on that i want to add further testimony which he did, which he testified to he said central office sends down recommendation to via specific inmate. they don't meet the criteria or they do need criteria and if they have to send it up anyway then i'm required to do that. the judge stopped him you've been asked by central office about a specific inmate who didn't need criteria and he said yes, si