of the washington playing center john don brodsky he told us that a lot of pressure on the scientific community to produce a viable vaccine against covert 19 right now. the blue blood of. horseshoe crab a somewhat similar to ours and they they being the laboratory the pharmaceutical company would inject the vaccine into the crab and see what happens to the blood in terms of a reaction if there's a reaction and we know it's unsafe to use that the human being if it is safe well perhaps then we go to the next level in terms of safety and efficacy in terms of a fighting such a serious fire such a scope at 90 and the other thing that you're looking at is a cost factor i don't know how much of the horseshoe crab cost but then obviously if you have something synthetic that is laboratory made that the cost might go up we look at vaccines we want to make sure their basic safety we've been using apparently for years the blood of the horseshoe crab and i guess our animal rights activists were somewhat upset about this from a physician standpoint certainly we look at testing on other human beings

s executive vice president called these dumb brodsky's said the current crisis gives us no other option but to work hand in hand with our global partners including china by pulling together we can recover more quickly economically and make progress on areas of mutual interest such as trade and investment relations well the meeting allowed the 2 sides to discuss the importance of bilateral and trade relations based on key risk reciprocity and a level playing field well for more on this we're joined by so much christiane and host of the economic data and author of understanding social richard wolffe professor let's start with you today looks like china and the e.u. they're seeking to strengthen these economic and trade ties and this is comes at a time with the deepening feud with the united states but how is this relationship now between china and the e.u. and what do each side really hope to gain from these talks. well i think you're seeing the beginning of a reaction that was already underway and will continue. in a way that but also it was to charge it was. just wrong giving general. a

. ♪ >> reporter: which was more than enough for switch foot fans like the brodsky family.>> both! >> as a family, we like to go see live music. and it's very cathartic. even when we're not in a concert-type arena or venue. >> reporter: how confident are you that the music industry will survive this? certainly the concert industry i guess. >> rock and roll is -- the history of it is so adaptable. it's resilient. and if it takes longer for the vaccine, you know, like -- fight it like a cockroach to like figure out different ways.lly t sitting in cars watching concerts. but if we have to, you know, i would do it. >> reporter: and so will southside johnny. >> this is going to be a real challenge. but you know, i just want to play. >> reporter: for now -- have you allowed yourself to think about what that first concert will be like that can be in the old normal that we knew? >> i can only tell you that the last show we did was in florida before everything got canceled. they were insane. so i'm expecting the first show that we do that is actually live with people to be bonkers.