and, john brabender. a senior adviser for rick santorum's 2016 presidential campaign, and he is the chief strategist at brabender cox, a political marketing firm. it's good to see you both. thank you so much for joining us. john brabender, i'm going to start with you because of the news breaking tonight,id prt trump announcing that the jacksonville convention is completely going away as a result of the pandemic. you're a republican. wh does this say about how republicans are going to nominate their president for reelection? >> well, i think a a strategist, i see this as a bit and disappointme disadvantage for president trump. i mean, this is not a fireside chat president, this is not a press conference president, this is a large rally, live events, we know he feeds off that, unscripted, and now he's forced to turn to a more mundane way of just a small screen, talking to people, and that's t who this president is. so i'm sure that it's frustrating for the trump campaign at this point, but it's the new new.

but he won't be able to control his candidate. >> what do you think of that, john brabender?oughout 2016, throughout his presidency, throughout this campaign so far. is this pretty much what it's going to look like the rest of the way, or do you think there might be any significant changes here? >> well, first of all, i think we have to understand there were more changes than just brad parscale. they also overhauled the communications department, which i think was the most critical area to overhaul. they brought in jason miller, who was there in 2016. extremely skilled. ie i've known jason, worked on campaigns with him for 16 years. hogan gidley is there who moved over from the white house press operation. the biggest problem this campaign has today is not operations, fund-raising, digital or data, which brad parscale is probably the expert in the country on this. it actually is communications. and the problem is in a campaign where you're an incumbent, you own everything that happens whether you're responsible or not. president trump was elected to be a disruptive force in w