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i want to bring in mary kay henry.the service employees international union. she's also the cochair of the california governors future of work commission. good to see you. thank you for joining us this morning. >> good to be with you, ali. >> let me ask you about unions. this has been a tough few years for unions in part because some of the things that donald trump has done have appealed to unions including the tariffs that he put on. the steel tariffs. you know, the pressure is on international trade, some of the trade war. on the other hand, he had promised people particularly in places like i am that manufacturing would come back and industry would increase in america. and that hasn't happened. so how do union members evaluate how to vote in 2020? >> they -- union members know that 40 million of our brothers and sisters are unemployed and that this president has failed to provide personal protective equipment to every essential worker on the front lines of this pandemic. health care workers, janitors, security offic