. >> thank you, mr. klipp for your very well done -- the question i have, so if the city doesn't water, what is your infrastructure for watering these trees? >> that will be addressed by an appellant later in this hearing. >> i'll save my question for later. thank you. >> thank you. we also have a question from commissioner tanner. >> thank you, mr. klipp, i just wanted to know if you can go over the terms of the agreement that you came to with public works? what were the agreements? >> well, i would first say it's not an agreement in the sense that not all appellants have come to any sort of agreement but it was more of a discussion and here are things that could be done basically, i would call them more commitments. >> when you think about those commitments that you noted at the end of your presentation that you would like to see incorporated into the permit, could you outline for yourself then what you see those commitments being? >> yeah, again, i'm going to defer those are going to be covered by a couple

we will now hear from mr. klipp, general public comment. >> i'm going to go without the video. i'm actually sitting in a camper van. >> clerk: okay. you can make it entertaining for us. >> i just want to reflect casey's comment with the penalty here. essentially, this is the equivalent of an in lieu fee, which is what you assess when a tree cannot be believed. the code goes into detail about what happens when a tree is illegally removed, and it's not an in lieu fee. there are administrative penalties, even criminal penalties for that. i think you need to layout what was the fine for doing work without a permit. i'm not sure why we're talking about, you know, $2,000 in lieu fees for a contractor that illegally removed two trees. i understand that there was a discussion at the last hearing regarding ultimately who ends up paying for the work, and it absolutely should be the contractor who performs the work without the permit. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. is there any other comment public on this item? if so, press star-nine if you called in. star-nine if you want to provide pu