good for new yorkers. i applaud new yorkers. i'm proud to applaud new yorkers. unfortunately, we're now afraid that the virus is going to have a second wave. >> right. >> not the second wave they talked about but it's going to rebound because all of these other states have such a high infection rate and the people are coming to new york. we're trying to impose a quarantine, et cetera, but i'm very afraid of an increase in the infection rate because of what's happening in the other states, and that's why i want the federal government to wake up and do their job. >> governor, i want to throw that poster up one more times for folks so they know what we're talking ak. one point my colleague jake pointed out was that there's a lot in this poster that you'll put out, but it doesn't -- it doesn't also mention how there are more deaths than any other state, than any other state than new york. do you think the poster was a mistake in the midst of all this? >> no. tapper's point, you just heard from the cdc report, tapper should say that trump is to blame for the virus co

that is why i literally say congratulations to new yorkers. we followed the data, we have a model that worked and worked all across the state. it is working. we are reopening. the other regions outside of new york are even further down the road on reopening. and the numbers are all good. yes, we have compliance issues, especially downstate new york and long island. news. has been great i want to look ahead -- if it was just today, i would say great. all great. but we've all learned the hard way, look ahead, what's the next shoe that could drop? comingried about people to new york. you are not a hermetically sealed bubble. somebody lands in new york, they come through rick's airport, they come through jfk, laguardia, newark airport -- i remember the first positive we had was a health worker coming , and irough the airport remember what that started. first case. what uber did she get into? who at the gate did she say hello to? where did she pick up her bag? what uber driver? who did she shake hands with in the hotel lobby? it came in through the

in this week's new yorker. on mutual aid associations that are forming. springing up spontaneously around the country . just helping with the most basic things like groceries and getting people to the doctor, stuff like that. and i just love that piece. by the new yorker or i don't know. whatever you do to readthese days . >> .. there's so many ways in which the actual legislative the gaucher coefficient of who is getting help is an obvious nightmare. that's what i mean. i don't know if my perspective is swayed through having speaking to organizers for the last couple of months but it seems to me like so many of these mutual aid networks are spring at because of the suddenly or increasingly very mainstream understanding that, like, the state is not doing its job. like legislators are not doing their job. like these mutual aid is the sort of recognizing factor in disadvantaged communities and now it's amazing to me how mainstream this idea is we're basically living in a failed state. i find that very heartening but you think if not representative or someth

new yorkers have been truly amazing, and what they did was historic. ey tamed the beast, a cousin they are new york tough, which means smart, united, disciplined and loving. those with a facts. i know what to give you an opinion. this case, it's a very personal opinion, personal opinion but very personal. it's personal, then there's like very personal which is even more personal than just personal. we went through 11 days of hell. everybody processed it their own way. i saw it as climate a mountain and you had to climb the mountain every day, and every day was hard, and every day climbing the mountain you didn't even know how high the mountain was. and at the same time you were designing the mountain because our behavior was going to design the mountain and design the plateau and the peak. when will the virus stop? when you stop the virus, is what the experts would say to me. it was like a cruel little every day. when do the deaths stop? -- cool riddle. when you stop it. what does that mean? when social distancing works, when the close down policy works

. >> more than 1500 new yorkers dying from the virus alone. >> a huge surge in infections. >> i've been in new york city there was no traffic. it was kind of eerie. it was kind of weird. >> major murphy was deployed to the emergency department at lincoln hospital in the bronx. this burrough home to the highest number of infections. >> it hit when we were at lincoln, just to see the amount of critically ill patients. rooms turned into icu beds. there was like back to back to back. >> compared to bagram, it sounds like it was a mass casualty event 24/7, seven days a week. >> correct. every moment of every shift, every day for weeks. it's overwhelming. sometimes you just want to duck off and like cry. but you know you can't do that right now, because you have other things, you know, to do. and so. >> and so you soldier on. >> right. jt a w queens, major esther burns and thomas shu were dispatched to elmhurst hospital. early on, one of the hardest-hit areas in the city. >> we're here to help relieve their staff, who had been on it since, you know, the very beginning. >> i love y'all! i real

and the toll they took on the honor and the stability and the lives of new york and new yorkers. and i think that we have to have a movement to remember even unpleasant parts of our history because ultimately if they didn't make us better right away, at least they struck appropriate shame into the hearts of progressive new yorkers. >> absolutely. just a couple more questions before we go to our q&a portion. boathildren were taken by and were all the children saved? that's hard to tell. >> it's hard to tell. we assume there were no casualties, but how can i say this. black lives didn't matter in 1863. even in new york. then't have any faith in actuarial account. we think that most of the children were rescued. nearly all the children. thing was inortant fact saved and it was this bible. uphave the inscription blown so you can see the inside of that object. and there's something so almost chilling about seeing the charred edges and the inscription inside. >> it is said this bible was in the asylum before the destruction of the asylum on fifth avenue by the rioters. it is charred ar

[laughter] >> an article in the new yorker? >> it's called the tipping point which was just about crime some trying to explain why a crime in europe had fallen so quickly that came out in 1986. that is now version of that article the much changed is a chapter of the book is a little bit in this but most of it is 85 percent new. >> i notice you have a website do you carry some of your writing cracks back everything i do is on the website. >> how did that work when it comes to selling your book? >> the book is not on the website. this is new. [laughter] >> how does that work to integrate your living as a writer? >> nothing in the new yorker was on any kind of archive. i just think that i want people colleges use articles in the syllabus and it's much easier if it's on the website and they can tell people to go there that have a lot of people do stuff and it just helps to keep my articles down. i don't like them to just sit there. >> you think that would help the publicity of your book or to marketing? >> this is a good question b

and new yorkers contributed to that fight, as did irish-american brigades. the irish-american troops fought at gettysburg heroically. we don't want to tarnish an entire group your, because the courage was manifest across all ethnic lines during the civil war. the current climate in new york at the country is on people's minds. one question that emerged is, how did the mayor and governor of the state respond then? and does that shed light on how they should respond now? the mayor was attacked pretty early, mayor updike. governor tilden was a democrat, and he was opposed to the draft and had spoken out pretty draft.ly against the it is political, he can say what he wants, but during the outbreak of the riots, to his hedit, as an act of bravery, came into the middle of one of the demonstrations and tried to quell the riots. an he did it with unfortunate phrase that came back to haunt him. he started by saying, my friends. and after that, all of the press around the country branded him as an appeaser. the my friends phrase followed him all the way to his preside

it has been challenging for new yorkers. reworks every single night and the protests associated with the andtimate fight for reform the governor has been a champion of this way before this. he put new york state in a leadership role where others are looking to us for what we accomplished. there is tension. lost jobs, stress, a lot of anxiety, and the violence is escalating. the governor has offered to work with the local police department, nypd, and bring in the resources of the state police to assist, working with district attorneys, and we are lending. of new york state to try to get that volatile situation under control. we just want to get back to normal, but normal will not happen while there is still pandemic and we are asking new yorkers to do more. can you hold on a little bit longer? you can get your hair cut but you cannot eat in a restaurant. they have to keep doing this, they have to keep wearing the mask, they have to keep social distancing to make sure we cannot slide backwards. when you think about what we've a

that's what new yorkers think . that's what americansthink . let them eat cake. shame. shame. on our republican friends. the cover of the new york daily news sums it up. let them eat cake. let them eat cake sums up the rorepublican proposal and response to the greatest economic crisis in 75 years. let them eat cake. people can't feed their kids. people are losing their homes . getting kicked out of their apartments. all businesses are goingunder . republican response, let them eat cake. who are the republicans fighting for in this proposal ? tax breaks for three martini lunches but no food assistance for thepoor . immunity for corporations but no immunity for americans facing eviction. 20, 30 million unemployed americans and republicans say take a 30 percent tax cut . who are the republicans fighting for in this proposal ? if you're a big bank, a defense contractor, a member of the trump family the proposal has good news if you can barely afford to rent, can't feed your kids or are fighting your family's future the republican plan leaves you out in the cold. the consequences of

the coronavirus death rate for new yorkers in shelters is 61% higher compared to new yorkers with homes. the organization also says unsheltered homeless may fayetteville an even greater risk of dying and many groups that provide help may be shut down or not able to operate normally. >> doctors without boarders teamed up here in new york city to offer showers to those in need. they're offering showers, meals, and places for people to sleep during the pandemic. >> a few people have told me this is the first shower they've had in two or three weeks. >> that's both heart breaking and heart warming at the same time. >> yeah, it feels good to be able to provide it but really we shouldn't have gotten there. >> officials in new york, houston, and los angeles secured hotel rooms for some homeless. san francisco designated safe sleeping sites, open air encampments that encourage social distancing and in atlanta, georgia, the lost and found youth shelter added extra staff to keep the facility sanitized. they spaced out beds to keep people as far away from people as possible. >> we're allowing peop

these are new yorkers.ter angels and did the right thing i'm proud to be a new yorker, to tell the truth >> jimmy: me, too. i'm getting a lot of praise that you're the first governor to enact police reform. what can you say about that? >> you heard the outrage after the george floyd murder. in many ways, i'm surprised it took so long you have 30 cases that went before george floyd. you can go back to rodney king in los angeles 30 years ago. we had diallo in new york 20 years ago. they're all basically the same eric garner, in new york city, six years ago, died of a chokehold on staten island i think people at one point said enough is enough they want a different type of policing, they want a different relationship with the police i think it's a good thing, jimmy. look, if you don't have trust and respect between the police and the community you have nothing. the relationship has to work if it's not working for one party the relationship is not working. what the community is saying, it's not working for us.

though, let me show my colleagues but new yorkers think of the republican proposal. gop plan slices $600 checks. this is what new yorkers think. that's what americans think. shame on our republican friends. the cover of the new york daily news sums it up. it sums up the republican proposal in response to the greatest economic crisis in 75 years. let them eat cake. people can't feed their kids. people are losing their homes, getting kicked out of their apartments. small businesses are going under. r republican response, let them eat cake. who are the republicans fighting for in this proposal? tax breaksr? and three martini lunches with no assistance to the poor? immunity for corporations but not for americans facing eviction? unemployed americans and republicans say take a 30% tax cut, tax pay cut? who are the republicans fighting for in this proposal? if you are a big banks, contractor, and the trump family, the proposal has good for you, but if you can barely afford the rent, can't find work, can't find food for your kids and are fighting for yourn family future, th

while it may my colleagues what new yorkers think of the republicans proposal. loan eat, the geo pretty plan slices $600 checks that are paid to states. that them eat cake. that's what new yorkers think. that's what americans think. let them eat cake. shame, shame, shame. on our republican friends. the new york daily news sums it up. cake.em eat let them eat cake. it sums up the rope of republicans proposal in response mito the greatest economic criss in 75 years. let them eat cake. people can't feed their kids. people are losing their homes. any kicked out of their apartments. small businesses are going under. republican response, let them eat cake. who are the republicans writing for this proposal. text makes between martini lunches but no food assistance to theor poor. immunity for corporations but no immunity for american facing addiction. unemployed americans and republican say take it back text separated take a pay cut. who are the republicans fighting for this proposal. your big bang, defense contractor, memberli of the trup family. there's good news for

the virus didn't come here because of anything new yorkers did. the virus came here because the federal government missed it.

most people, indeed most new yorkers, probably have no clue as to what the city council does. now they're realizing that what a city council does is vital to the way that you live, perhaps more so than even the president. >> david, driving around new york city, empty streets, boarded up windows, boarded up buildings, these decisions were not made in washington that enabled that type of environment, to let rioters run loose and looting soho and other areas in the east village, all over new york, up and down fifth avenue and madison avenue. this was allowed by your city

we are making these cuts to appease a fraction of far left new yorkers and i understand the politics of it but we are also making these cuts to continue this false propagation that police officers are the gravest danger to the public. as though less police officers will somehow make the general public safer in new york city. >> dana: do you have a concern, congressman, that this could backfire, and actually end up with more crime as we have already seen in new york city but possibly across the country with vulnerable populations not protected? >> what i'm hoping we can stop doing is exaggerating people's positions who are seemingly on another side of the issue.

a german health minister again sponsored himself the last thing they want is for the island of new yorkers to become the next issue which of course is that ski resort in austria which became a hot spot for 19 and helped free to spread the pandemic across the virus sorry across europe what did spawn and his experts say about the wider krone situation right now here in germany. well germany still certainly has a strong grip on the pandemic the card has certainly been flattened there are just over well just under $6000.00 active cases of quoted 19 at the moment bringing the total of cases so far to just under 200000 just over 1000 people have sadly lost their lives as well took over 1000 but relatively speaking as german authorities and public health institute have said time and time again germany has had a relative success when it comes to handling the pandemic which is even more so they could the reason why the health minister now is calling on vacation as

mcenany: what this white house is focused on is ensuring what jeffrey cuban has said over at the new yorker, new york's primary vote count chaos signals trouble for november. as he noted, you want to talk about the president, jeffrey cuban himself, democrats control the state government of new york. they are responsible for creating the fiasco unfolding now. that is certain to get worse in november. states need to get their acts together. when it comes to elections. as we see in new york where we're five weeks out from that election, and in fact we still don't know the outcome of a congressional race. that's not what we want to see. reporter: you asked why i was asking about the president. i'm asking about the president pause you work for the president. reporter: since the president's eeting this morning with the national association of organizations, in 2008 to 2012 they supported joe biden. now they're endorsing president trump. so what changed? ms. mcenany: it's clearly a change in the democrat party. when you look at the polling on the funding -- defunding the police, abc news poll, 64%

alex what in the 1st booklet is how you identify allegedly folds information being reported in the new yorker magazine and that alone new york governor had to como's a press conference is i mean over here is reported as a possible contender for president in november because he was so great at talking about ventilators tell me a little bit about that about this echo chamber and how it is. arguably distributed false information about coronavirus sure sir so there again there's been false and misleading or inaccurate with the new yorker did and that is not in the book but it's something that i pointed out a couple of days ago and it got attention on twitter the new yorker misreported some numbers about florida hospitalizations and i think they did that i think was an honest error on their poor and they did correct it although they didn't they didn't correct it in you know in as complete a way as would have been nice cuomo cuomo in early april was using projections that were just completely inaccurate late march early april and here's the thing there was a period of about 10 days especially in ne

david: by the way, new yorkers themselves are not in favor of this. is is, there is a very undemocrattic thing happening. it is not just happening in new york city with the city council. it is happening in places like minneapolis which also has a city council that voted unanimously to defund, completely defund the police. you have it happening in places like san francisco, all over the country. chicago, where the city council is voting against the interests of the majority of the people. the majority of new yorks polled do not want, not only do they not want defunding of the police, they don't want to have any elimination of any funding for the police and here's why. show a video clip of a woman the other day, right here, she is 65-year-old woman who in broad daylight was assaulted by this guy. sneaked up behind her, put her in a chokehold. we've been hearing a lot about chokeholds. here is one by a criminal, put a chokehold on a 65-year-old woman grabbed her bag, walked casually away. most new yorkers don't want any reduction in police force funding.

after videos of large gatherings over the holiday weekend, governor cuomo had this warning for new yorkers earlier today -- >> the last thing we need is to see this virus spike again. we get complacent. we get a little arrogant. that is a real threat. and it's a threat that i'm concerned about. >> let's turn to one of our reports reporters on the ground, priscilla thompson with us. the houston region grappling with record-breaking hospitalizations. i want to share with our audience the front page of the houston paper, i believe this was the sunday paper the question, how did we get here? the headline here, abbott's plan unravels the state into a hot spot. >> reporter: brian, you know, just last night, the state reported more than 8,000 people are currently hospitalized for covid-19. that's a new record here and the cdc is saying that by the time this virus peaks here around mid-july, those hospitalizations could be up to nearly 2,000 people per day and that's a huge concern in a place like houston where the positivity rate here for those it'sing positive for the virus is at 25%. 1 in 4 peo

but we just want to tell you, on behalf of new yorkers, after what we have gone through, that you are exactly right there, what you're saying and what you are advocating. it is no longer a question of theory or a question of politics. we have facts. we have data. we went through it here in new york. we went through it in the worst case scenario. and it is about following the data and following the science and taking the precautions and doing what is right. it is about masks. masks work. we can tell you that here in new york. we had the worst spike per capita on the globe, and we brought it down. now you see these other states are going higher than we are. so those masks work. we were the first state to start mandatory masks april 15. and all the science now says, for sure, masks make a big difference. one of the models last week, the i hme model, the gates funded model that the white house uses, actually projected 40,000 more americans will die if we don't have a national mask policy. so it is clear. but we just wanted to tell you that we feel for you. we are all one, we are one commu

malcolm gladwell has been a staff writer for the new yorker magazine since 1996, before that he was a new york bureau chief for the washington post. at the new yorker he very quickly made his mark establishing a new genre of story, the malcolm gladwell story. there's very few people like that in the 80 years of this magazine stop editorial meetings the subject's Ãbcome up and say that's been done to that. someone else will say, yes but if we have a malcolm gladwell take on it. it's a great conversational trump card. malcolm has really a peculiar genius for exploration. sometimes very peculiar. it's tempting to try to explain what makes him such an important writer. i think a lot of it has to do with certain originality of mind a certain distinctiveness of voice and both of those qualities were on display in his best-selling book "the tipping point" which is a book that's been quoted by at least one u.s. president, by joint chief of staff, by ceos, philanthropists, also the title of new album by the hip-hop band "the roots" which is an homage to the intellectual hero. [laughter] his ne

references to his daughters and the boyfriend, inside jokes, no illustrations of the 32,000 did new yorkers, the highest death toll of any state. >> jake tapper calling out andrew cuomo the way he has handled the covid-19 outbreak in new york in this victory lap. we are getting reports from florida that miami area hospitals are running out of icu beds equipped for handling covid-19 patients before the hospitals are treating 8253 covid-19 patients according to the healthy permit and that is causing strain at some facilities. >> our hospital asked for help with nurses to get us some nurses but it's bed capacity, the daily strategy meetings to figure out which beds can we turn into covid-19 beds, which beds can create safe isolation for. >> reporter: florida's 7 they average is 81 deaths a day, the second highest in the country behind texas, doubled 39 they average two weeks ago. in texas and antonio bring in refrigerated trailers because what officials say is a backlog of deceased patients. >> with a growing number of covid-19 death and the fact that many funerals are on hold local hospitals

. >>> new yorkers are looked forward to the final phase of reopening.hat day has come and they're free to roam outdoors in some public spaces, but they still can't do many of the things their city is known for. nhk world's catherine kobayashi reports. >> reporter: the kitchen is open at this restauran near times uauare a thehe drinks are flowing, but cusmerstill aren't welcome inside. >> restaurants want people and the people want to go to restaurants, so everybody is doing what they're supposed to. >> reporter: new yorkers were allowed last month to dine again at restaurants outdoors. this week they hoped to get a table inside and to visit museums, malls and movie theatersrs, but those activitie have been postponed. >> this is the city that never sleeps. we hope we can go back to our normal ways. one day at a time. >> reporter: this final phase of reopening comes with some caveats. zoos and gardens can open, but only at a third of capacity. professional sports can start up again, but without fans. producers can film movies and tv shows, though the stre

again, largely, there is support, especially among new yorkers. >> thank you so much for showing us thate for us from new york. >>> an ohio state law maker is calling for people to stop getting tested for the coronavirus. he posed his reasoning in a post on facebook. quote, are you tired of living in a dictatorship yet. he was complaining about the mask mandate, which just went into effect. he listed the seven counties effected by the health order and wrote at the bottom, never get tested. he has said he won't wear a mask because it dishonors god. i want to bring in ben staller now. the mayor of bell fountain, which is in patel's district. when you heard your law maker calling for people to never get tested, what did you think? >> thanks, brianna, for asking. in addition to being a mayor, i'm a pharmacist of 35 years. i listen more to how the virus works, the epidemiologist, i'm listening to science. representative is posturing a bit more on politics. i agree with a few of his comments but i can't stand behind what he's posted. and in fact, our governor has really repositioned himself. i

i've been a new yorker for a while, so i watch these.ng to be about 30 minutes and they kept true to their word. and it's not just a little bit here and there. i mean, it was full-on fireworks for this entire time. and as i said -- >> it still is! >> you really get all the feels. and it's still happening as we speak. >> yeah, and i'm looking over my shoulder behind me -- look, check this out. this is the empire state building. let's look at that. the empire state building, fireworks, for the first time. you see that? >> that's incredible! >> you know, here in new york city, they have been doing the fireworks display for -- look at that. there's washington, d.c. but they have been doing the fireworks display for the entire week now, doing small displays in each borough, and not letting people know that they were doing it, and then taping it so you can have this big display on the fourth of july. so here we go. yeah, so we're going to get straight to the new york fireworks that we have been talking about now. these are the best shots from

casey cep is a staff writer at the new yorker. after graduating from harvard with a degree in english she earned a master philosophy in theology at the university of oxford as a rhodes scholar. in interviewing case tonight is eugene, an award-winning veteran journalist who has an eclectic passion for history, lifestyles, real estate of the chesapeake bay. he has been widely published in several magazines, authored three books and was for many years the lead reporter and editor at the "washington post." since departing the posting 2004 he has gone on and 115 awards for his work and has more than 55 violence in the near times. welcome to the program, casey and gene. >> thanks so much for having us. >> thank you. j.c., it's good to see virtually. >> thanks so much. i know will have a great conversation. >> i love your book and i just tore through it, it's a page turner. i was fascinated by the research you did and how you put altogether. i guess my first question is, the remarkable story of the five or six alleged murders that occurr

claus at a very progressive mall repeatedly said rent it's too damn hard and if you're a native new yorker from burroughs like brooklyn and queens you've seen your neighborhoods turning whiter than the poop from a dog belonging to a woman now ensured that famous for refusing to leave shit while she's sick the cops on a black man for calling her out but the part that women stood in central park is actually the site of one of new york city's earliest examples of gentrification a chunk of modern day central park was 1st home to a black community formed in the 18th twenties called seneca village black residents bought plots of land that formed the communities several years before new york state officially abolished slavery in july 18th 27th and agreed to become a community of mostly working class and middle class families who want to stay the hell away from the busier and more racist parts of manhattan the same way native new yorkers know to stay the hell away from pictures of time square mascots who. look what you get when you ask gary busey to draw his favorite cartoon characters from memory

just ask some of our most famous new yorkers. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> as the secret police descended on new york citybut wonder, if i have secrets, am "i" the police? >> i kind of like the idea of having a strong man throw a bag over my head. as long as he has a really big baton. >> while federal agents were violating civil rights uptown, downtown, steve was protecting miranda's rights. >> habeas corpus!!! habeas corpus!!! ♪ ♪ ♪ >> stephen: now, if you're looking to escape the trump hellscape, you now have one less option for your dream vacation, because american tourists are now banned from the bahamas as our coronavirus cases spike. which is a refreshing change from the usual reason americans get banned from the bahamas: drunkenly trying to take a dolphin parasailing. the bahamas is just the latest in a long list of countries banning u.s. tourists, including japan, new zealand, canada, mexico, and all 27 countries of the european union. the downside is we can't go anywhere. but the upside is "where in the world is carmen san diego?" just got a lot easier. she's in san diego. wee lking to climate ac

so, i wrote a piece in the new yorker, which i would encourage people to read, called how kona run airus -- how coronavirus acts in the patient. there's a relationship between the dose of the virus you receive and the chance that you will get infected, and also potentially the severity of the disease you have. it's a dynamic battle between your immune system and the amount of viral exposure you're getting. which is again to emphasize why it is important to reduce that viral load, and to reduce the viral load, as i said, masking, social distancing, and the three c's. avoid close spaces, avoid close contact, avoid crowds. that is yet another conundrum. now let's get to the facts. when the virus is actually in your body, it of course affects the lungs. we knew that. it seems that the virus, the infection really has two phases. phase one of the infection is when the infection is being driven primarily by the viral infection itself. are is when your lung cells being destroyed, and you may have a fever, you may have chills, and the famous loss of smell, loss of taste, loss of appetite, etc

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>> guest: well, william shawn became the editor of the new yorker in 1953, right after easter ross died. and he was its editor for about 35 years, up until three or four years ago. he was a man of spectacular talent and a very idiosyncratic personal matters. he was terrifyingly shy and very reclusive, enormously well-organized. and whe then i sent a manuscripf a book in which i simply recounted what i had done during a week of the year and he accepted it for publication, i couldn't believe it because i'm a conservative and the new yorker was pretty liberal. c-span: with yours this? >> guest: this is 1970. so then i sent him a second book and he accepted it. and a third and he accepted it. then a third and fifth books. i had an extraordinary hospitality by this extraordinary man. now, about once a year he assigned himself the job of editing line by line a book that had been accepted by the new yorker. and it felt to be to fall under his personal production the first of the books. having lunch with him, but william shawn, was the next thing to be defloration. because you felt that they we

this one seems unique. >> i'm a lifelong new yorker. i love new york.ese people, oh, new york has failed every time that anything happens in the last 20 years. i think three things we need to do i laid out in my column today in the "new york post." is open schools, parents need that stability. the city needs stability. stop riots. crime is a larger picture is also involved. but in a very particular concerns. we need to stop riots and stop attacks on police. the third thing is governor cuomo needs to lay off the businesses. they're struggling. they have been struggling. open the gyms. let bars serve drinks without food. get a grip. follow the science. continue own with our lives the way we were meant to. david: carol, none of those things happen with current leadership. >> they need to see they're losing a tax base. not just the super-rich that left. that is obvious concern. a lot of people think oh it is rich manhattanites left. i know people left to go to stay with family across the country, in middle america, in other states. they're not locked up in

city and in the middle of all this the democrats who rule new york deciding they are going to make new yorkersss safe by demonizing the police and caving to those feral protesters who are so abusive and i don't know how the nypd puts up with their abuse. todd: the $1 billion budget cut getting attention, here's what the pba said about that. the day bill diblasio, city council cut nypd funding, dante's or tilly and was murdered on a queens street at 11 new yorkers were shot including six shot in brooklyn in a single hour. this is the city our elected officials chosen. you make a fascinating point that the rich and the middle class are going to pool their funds and hire private security out of the pool of people, pool of officers that are no longer working because of this and that is the poor that don't have that ability, the ones that are ultimately going to suffer. why do you say that? >> pure logic. if you demonize the police officers, drive them out of the nypd which is happening already, overtime has been slashed and you've done your time you're going to leave to preserve your pension, thos

a lot of the crowing and governor cuomo going on "late night" is offending a lot of new yorkers. are people going to be talking about what governor cuomo did for decades to come in the way he hopes? >> uh, unfortunately, i don't think so, jake. i mean, we're very early days in this. we're looking at the first few pages of the history books. and i think there's a lot more to be written. i'm a little surprised by that poster, i got to tell you, because i think, if anything, what this virus has taught us is that we need to have a significant amount of humility. this virus surprises us over and over again. there's no place in the country that's not vulnerable. and i think that we should've learned i think we have learned that victory laps are not the thing to be doing because we're not through this by a long shot, sad to say, even in new york. i think there's two ways of sort of looking at this. one hand, the house was on fire, and governor cuomo helped put the fire out. but we also heard from a lot of our medical contributors today, infectious disease specialists who say, look, part

usually, new yorkers, you know, they try to find a nice rooftop to stand on or a nice spot to gatherhis year, though. no, not this year because i think this year is about more socially distant fireworks. you still will see a show. there is going to be action in the skies tonight but the show's going to be much shorter because of what you talked about there. macy's actually began with this show last monday all the way through last night. it held these surprise little bursts of fireworks, kind of surprise shows all over the five boroughs of new york. the whole point of this is to have these mini-shows to give a show, of course, to all the new yorkers out there but especially to remain socially distant. macy's putting out the following statement, saying to encourage and support covid-19 safety and social distancing efforts and mitigate the advance gathering of large crowds for an extended period of time, we have chosen to delight new yorkers with unannounced displays across the five boroughs this year. now, those little shows reportedly happened much higher than the usual fireworks show

new yorkers have to be smart.also have a problem that if the virus is increasing anywhere it is going to travel here and then we will have a problem. t denying covid is really advancing the covid virus. and i know this is a politically charged environment right now. and somehow covid has become a political issue. which i have never heard of a virus becoming political. but in this environment it has. but if you deny the problem then you will never solve it. we're not the united states of denial. we have never been a nation that is excelled because we refuse to admit the problem. we admit the problem. and then we overcome the problem. if we do not as a nation acknowledge the covid viral increase, it is going to continue. those upward numbers don't change on their own. they only change when you change them. that number keeps going up unless you bonderman tend the c. bend doesn't happen naturally. the bend changes when people change the behavior and reduce the transmission rate. the upticks are just going to continue.

i had been reading a lot of things about taylor here in the new yorker. i need to pick those up as well. i read really short things these days. that is sort of what is happening with me right now. to build up my dreams. this helps me. i'm back. i warned you all about that. don't use crowded cast for your book to her. what are you reading eric. i am reading it comes out with another fsg author. someone ask about transnational activism. it can of travels the world and looks at different battles. across the entire world ranging from africa to the middle east and everywhere. i highly recommend it. i think it comes out late july. mark was in african new york. he brought quite a few he was a communicator between those two movements. someone needs to write about him. were doing a joint podcast episode. tomorrow i believe. i will ask him about that. that brings up to the hour. you could buy this. if you are on facebook live you can have to literary books.com. thank you so much to talk about this book today. i'll show australia coast-to-coast. we appreciate it. th