there's this great moment where you described the reporter, susanne craig, from "the new york times" turning up on your doorstep to ask for your help with this thing they are working on in terms of trump family finances. and you say to her that it is, quote, so not cool that you are showing up at my house. and you send her away, but you do let her leave her card with you. and i asked susanne craig about that, and she was very professional and really wouldn't talk about her side of that at all other than to confirm that everything you were saying was true. >> right. >> but that seems to me like that was maybe a pivot point for you too. you initially did not have any interest in talking to her, but something happened with you alone where you decided, you know what? maybe those documents can help, and they should get out there. and without even really knowing what was in them, you decided to hand them over. what was that process like? >> first of all, the crucial difference was that susanne craig, extraordinary investigative reporter, was finally giving me something concrete that i coul

joining us now is susanne craig, investigative reporter for "the new york times" and with her colleagues russ buettner and david barstow, winner of the pulitzer for that investigation of the trump family finances. thank you so much for making time for us tonight. i'm really glad you could do so. >> thanks for having me. >> so i would never ask you about your sources, and i'm not going to tonight. but mary trump in this book is volunteering that she was a source of yours and provided you and your colleagues with documents for your reports. i do just have to ask as she recounts this part of her family saga and what she learned and what she understands about her family and money and all this, does it comfort with yoport wit reporting and what you and your colleagues found at "the times"? >> it's interesting because we spent 18 months going through it and we learned a lot about how of sort of the trump thinks about finances and one of the things that mary trump brings up in her book is appraisals. i think we learned pretty quickly when we started to go through both the confidential documents

. >> susanne craig, pulitzer prize-winning investigative reporter at "the new york times," thank you so much for your time tonight and i'm grateful to mary trump for the vivid display of how you do your work and how you persuaded her to -- to -- to provide this material. it's a fascinating window into how you work. thank you so much, susanne. >> it was a bit of a movie scene, so thanks for the reading. >> i appreciate it. all right. you know what? i'm never going to be in the movies. this is as close as i get. i read stuff on tv and imagine myself there. all right. more ahead here tonight. stay with us. i don't have silent. everyone does -- right up here. it happens to all of us. we buy a new home, and we turn into our parents. what i do is help new homeowners overcome this. what is that, an adjustable spanner? good choice, steve. okay, don't forget you're not assisting him. you hired him. if you have nowhere to sit, you have too many. who else reads books about submarines? my dad. yeah. oh, those are -- progressive can't protect you from becoming your parents, but we can protect you