i add asked bill gertz to moderate this panel. students are watching we've got a ton of folks streaming to different channels across country.i will let you know who you just heard from. these are the three best book authors in the country by far and all of their titles are not exactly rosy scenario, they're not optimists. i'm an optimistic calvinist if there is a thing. michael pillsbury, 100 year marathon, it's a war. in the general and stealth war and bill bill gertz on "deceiving the sky". all three of these gentlemen, please google them learn from them, look at their bios they just said was profound more than i can put in 30 seconds. it's an honor to be on a stage with these three gentlemen and i will just personalize this, their books and the message they deliver is risky for them to be out there putting out the truth the way they do it. i want to thank them on behalf of the falkirk center let's give them a big round of liberty applause. thank you gentlemen for all you do. [inaudible background conversations] booktv on c-span

we have bill gertz as many books on the china threat. e have my comments we have bill buckley 1972 opposing nixon's trip will he was there in beijing for 50 years i think my view is still correct, frank, legislation maybe is not totally necessary, but it certainly help a lot. >> by the way semi gear former senate staffer. [laughter] is that correct? >> that is correct. >> in a comment on that? >> i do believe the president has many authorities. and i think the answer that michael propper is only partially correct. because in reality, the political consensus is very much driven by where the corporate sector and wall street donate some money. and in fact, they've because of the profits they earned on behalf also the money trail through corporate america and wall street and in that sense, but the party does it essentially curry favor in our political system through these connections. >> i would just say that on the issue of decoupling, one of the policy suggestions that has been raised is a need to decouple our economy from china. that is pa

and so i oust bill gertz to moderate this panel and if the liberty students are watching out there weave a ton of folks streaming different channels across the country. i just want to let you know who you just heard from. these are the three best book others in the country by far. all of their titles are not exactly rosy scenarios. i'm an optimistic calvinist so michael pillsbury and "the hundred year marathon," its award and then the general one "stealth war" and bill gertz on "deceiving the sky." your office since is in the cloud in your defense is in -- all three of these gentlemen, please google them and learn from them and look at their bios see who they are because what they just said to you is profound more than i can put in 30 seconds. it's an honor to be on a stage with these three gentlemen. i will just personalize it their books and the message they deliver is risky for them to be out there putting out the truth the way they do it. i want to thank them on behalf of the kirk center who put this event together but let's give them a big warm round of liberty applause. [applaus

bill gertz deceiving this guy. general rob spalding.ving this guy. >> the american people -- you grow up in the heartland, they are all good people. the judeo-christian tradition is strong, they care about people, they want to help people. are your folks able to take in some of the deeds china is showing us? when you read about them killing 60 million people, can they absorb this? it's not the chinese people, this whole conference -- this is the ccp. we want to free 1.4 billion people from bondage so they can have faith and freedom in this. -- the american people judeo-christian depots, is it still strong, and can they see others can do evil to us so we can fight back? these guys say we are at war, are we are not? >> with china? i think it's not a stretch to use the term that this is a cold war because of how we are going to have to break away from some of our relationship with them and some of our allies. boris johnson with his decision was a hugew huawei win for us. one of the things that has happened is the confluence of events that