chris kobach getting beat by roger marshall. democrats hoped it would have been kobach because they thought that might have set up a better chance for them to pick up a seat in kansas. the democrats looking to take back the senate in the fall. but that would be -- if that happened, chris, it would be the first time a democrat had won that seat for the senate since 1932. >> jessica dean, thank you very much. an uphill battle for democrats in that state. kobach is relevant in terms of where we are right now. the president is bashing the idea of voter fraud. kobach was his boy on that. the one he put in charge of the commission to track down fraud in the 2016 election. they had to disband it? it's interesting that kobach goes down in his own party at a time that trump is playing that same song that you can't trust the system. you can only trust him. >>> all right. another tragedy that needs to be on your radar. in beirut, a massive explosion. as strong as a magnitude 3.3 earthquake. i want to show you this blast because you haven't

it's especially strange because chris kobach was one of president trump's first big allies as he was beginning his running for president. so it's strange that president trump hasn't come forward to endorse chris kobach but rather, like you said, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and others are really pushing for him to endorse roger marshall because they believe that's the candidate that can beat barbara bowlier in the november election. it's a big race in kansas that could change history for the state. >> and we always use the word turnout, turnout, turnout. it doesn't look very busy behind you but it is the middle of the day. what are we seeing and expecting with turnout. i don't know if you're getting any early indications statewide. any signs the pandemic is keeping people home? >> we're definitely seeing a lower turnout than we would normally expect. it's the middle of the day, so, of course, people might be at work and haven't been able to come to the polls yet. but kansas has seen a huge increase in ballot requests. we've had 240,000 mail-in ballot requests. so most peopl

you just mentioned chris kobach. he was at the beginning of the trump administration part of the voter fraud panel that was set up. remember donald trump set up a panel to show us how bad voter fraud was in the last election and it came up with goose eggs? >> well, do i remember? that was sort of the beginning of my unraveling. i remember shouting at the television, there is no voter fraud. if you look at them as bookends, that was the first lie. and now they're picking up with the second lie. what's remarkable to me, having once been a republican, is that the rnc is also now saying the quiet part outloud and saying that this guy is what threatens their senate majority. the guy that threatens our senate majority is the guy in the office with no corners. >> that's right. you are joining a small club of msnbc anchors who have officially two-hour long shows. you have been anchoring that for a long time. but it's official. welcome to the club. as i tweeted out earlier, more nicole wallace is what the country needs right

that one features former kansas secretary of state chris kobach.aten the senate majority and possibly trump's chances in kansas. as our friend rachel says, watch this space. that does it for us tonight. rachel will be back right here tomorrow night. i know where i will be. i'll see you tomorrow 3:00 p.m. eastern. "first look" is up next. >>> president trump claims the coronavirus is down. the virus is spreading. >>> new york governor andrew cuomo lashes out at the president and the administration's response to the pandemic calling it, quotes, the worst government blunder in modern history. >>> good tuesday

marshall facing off against the secretary of state in that state, chrchri chrichris chrichris chris kobach. >> republicans are really concerned about nominating kris kobach. there are a few other republican candidates meaning that kris kobach could win. he lost the governor's race in 2018 to a democrat. he has a very fervent base, but his fomer governor also made him toxic with a larger group. so, even though kris kobach could win a general election, it would mean republicans would have to invest in that race. he could also lose the general election in kansas which most republicans could not. in addition to this kind of ever-expanding maps with two seats in georgia, a seat in montana, competitive races in north carolina, the idea that republicans would also have to invest in kansas would be a major blow to morale. >> we will look at some of those races over the course of our conversation. >> let's get to the call line. good morning. >> caller: good morning. i noticed something about joe biden's perspective pick for vice president. he says he has to pick a black woman. when the woman droppe

shannon: what do you make about the fact the kansas senate race, chris kobach has been considered controversiallot of assessment republicans worried he could move into the seat in kansas. >> that is the other big news, republicans were worried he would put the senate seat, now off the table. rob marshall in a very republican state. republicans breathed a sigh of relief, they won't have to spend money or time there. they can focus their efforts elsewhere. a lot of republican senate races in need of the money. shannon: let's talk about absentee ballots versus a mail in ballot situation. generally you have to make a request, fill out an application, do the extra step of the paperwork. the reporting today is a number of states changed things this fall. they will send ballots to everyone who is an eligible voter without that person asking for it. there is a distinction and now there are worries by some who say the trump administration will slowdown the mail system, to make sure they don't get to the people, the washington post has recently policies changes put in place by the new postmaster general,

shannon: a big night in kansas where congressman roger marshall leaves chris kobach. beating lacy clay. what do these results signal now that we're 3 months from the presidential election? ron meyer joins me, thanks for being here. the president had previously backed roger marshall, seemed rather excited about it. would you think the results? >> conventional wisdom is ron d marchal was the next, mitch mcconnell got involved in the primary which is rare but wanted to make sure kansas stayed a republican seat. by all means there should be a relatively safe republican hold. roger marshall only beating the democrat by 10% so it is a race to watch, definitely one that people should pay attention to. >> let's look at the results. roger marshall, 40%, chris koc a kocbach 50%. it is the one to watch but it has been a long time. >> democrats have routinely won the governor's mention so kansas has become more competitive over the years. with trump on the ballot it is less likely democrats have a play, they are hoping kobach would win because he was defeated in the 2018 election

about -- >> reporter: that doesn't seem to line up with what others recall about the project like chris kobachdly said not only did the president know about the project that raised 25 million in donations, but supported it. >> i've spoken to the president about this project on three occasions now. >> trump expressed clear enthusiasm for it. he wants it known that he stands behind this. >> and he said i want the media to know that this project has my blessing. he was really making a point that he was behind this. >> reporter: a point echoed by the chief financial officer of we build the wall. she's married to one of the men indicted and posted this photo of her and president trump last summer saying she talked with president trump who had a lot of questions about the wall we the people built through we build the wall. she was impressed, she said. donald trump's son don jr. was impressed too. the facebook account of the group's founder shows him with the president's son taking a private jet to an event last year where don jr. praised the private wall effort. >> this is private enterprise at its

. >> that's not what a staunch supporter of the president chris kobache who is the general counsel ofhis project told the new york times in january 2019 i'm wondering how that has to be reconciled he said and i'm quoting here from his interview i talked with the president and the quote we build the wall effort came up the president said the project has my blessing and you can tell the media that we heard and the president said i know nothing about the project. i don't know the people involved >> reporter: right it's difficult to square those two things it seemed as if this was a project that had the trump family to some extent because donald trump junior was linked to fund raising efforts around this the president distancing himself from steve bannon and suggesting he didn't know anything about it and thought it was bad idea to the extent he did know about it. we'll see what bannon has to say later in the day there's more details here that we need to look for today in terms of this investigation. bannon was taken into custody on board 150-foot yacht that's a big boat in the long islan

bannon sweeps in and here's chris kobach telling everyone the president vouches for him. >> we were talking about a variety of issues, and the topic came up -- i mentioned that i was working with we build the wall. and he said, well, you tell the people you are working with that this project has my blessing. and he went further. he said, i want the media to know that this project has my blessing. he was really making a point that he was behind this. >> i mean, this clearly mattered a lot to them in their fund-raising. >> of course. and, again, he's a decorated iraq war veteran. he gave a lot to this country. and that, to me, as a reporter, we were sort of following this. it reached a point where it was like, okay, this guy has had some maybe shady fund-raising schemes in his past. you get back and you do what you can to make a living with your family, right? so small-time grifter and far right. but this is something different. and then if the allegation proved correct, what could have been a successful e-mail harvesting campaign, he could have sold this list of really, you know, eager, hung

senate seat who was sort of favored by establishment republicans over the more extremist chris kobach, one, which is seen for a boon for republicans in that race. but ultimately, i think things have shifted away from embracing trump since 2016. >> woodruff: how do you see, finally, gary abernathy, the trump popularity and joe biden's presence now?el >> i'm sure sarah's right about where she's at in certain parts of the country, but, right here, the enthusiasm is unabated, the signs are up and have been for quite a while. hae oldmake america great again sign been replaced by trump 2020 or keep america great. people are very anxious and motivated. the enthusiasl m level wilbe high here in southern ohio, and i think the decision by vice president biden so far to ind of run, if he was in the white house you would call it rose garden strategy, can't last for too much longer.th i thine media will pressure him to come out more. but right now, in areas where i'm at, it's not doing him any favors. >> woodruff: well, we shall see. we'r watching this with great interest, as you can imagine, as t

republican marshall, edging out chris kobach. replacing retiring senator pat roberts.ft, you have these progressives. they're winning races across the country and they're flexing their muscle. they have never been ashamed to flex their muscle. by the same token feels like the establishment in the republican party is starting to gain some traction. i don't like either development, deneen. >> well, with the radical democrats, it is stark dynamic what they stand for, and what president trump stands for. they want to punish americans, raise taxes, implement the green new deal which is a job killer and which raise energy prices. they are demonizing our law enforcement, pitting them against citizens. president trump is for law and order. he is supporting our police officers. he is gained the support of some union, police unions. we are energy secure, energy dependent, energy independent. so it's a stark dynamic with what the democrats are pushing, progressive versus president trump. charles: people come on tv, financial media, say biden is only going to raise taxes 28%, busi

end, because of what these a very cusnton particular, and that is the former secretary of state chris kobachubernatorial nominee for republicans in 2018. he was endorsed by donald trump. he's also an immigration hard liner like donald trump. and the fac that he lost to a of republicaho say we can'ta lot take that kind of risk now. i still think kansas i t agh place for democrats to win even in what'so shaping up t be a cotter year perhaps across the trun ig democrats.bucans have about republicans are completely on defense, in places that they didn't think they were going to have to be onefense. not just kansas but states like and so, you know, to have to go in theoretically, spend money and effort to win a state that should be, in normal times, slam dunk, that has to be frustrating for them.>> t has to behe apertur for us from the senate to the presidential race. speaking about being on the fensive, the trump administration last wk took down its ad. said they were goingark and they were going to retool. they're out with a somewhat new message. what are they saying? at was this change a about

you just mentioned chris kobach.art of the voter fraud panel that was set up. remember donald trump set up a panel to show us how bad voter fraud was in the last election and it came up with goose eggs? >> well, do i remember? that was sort of the beginning

that one features former kansas secretary of state chris kobach.arning local republicans that if he gets the nomination, it would threaten the senate majority and possibly trump's chances in kansas. as our friend rachel says, watch this space. that does it for us tonight. rachel will be back right here tomorrow night. i know where i will be. i'll see you tomorrow 3:00 p.m. eastern. now it's time for "the last word." good evening. you have been busy. i watched you all week last week at 9:00 and now you're back this week at 10:00. hardest working man in television. >> well, you know, what better time, nicole, than to be -- to have a front seat to eveth

chris kobach last year said "i talked with the president and the we build the wall effort came up. the president said the project has my blessing and you can tell the media that." what it says about the president's judgment, at this point, the head of his 2016 campaign, paul manafort found guilty, his deputy head of the campaign rick gates found guilty, thirst national security adviser, michael flynn, guilty, his campaign roger stone, guilty, his personal lawyer, michael cohen guilty. so the president's own new campaign manager bill steppian two weeks ago said "i think you need to judge joe biden by the people he's surrounding himself with." by that standard i think president trump is looking really, really damaged, and the last thing i'll say about this is that there's also some other breaking news out of that same court, the southern district of new york, just in the last few minutes. president trump's case against cy vance, trying to subpoena information about him has been decided against president trump as well. so this is the rule of law asserting itself, taking its time but c

will be the republican nominee for a key senate seat after defeating former secretary of state chris kobachhis fall. concerns shared by majority leader mitch mcconnell, among many. and in missouri cory bush, a one-time homeless woman who led protests following a white police officer's fatal shooting of an 18-year-old black man in ferguson, missouri, named michael brown, has ousted long-time congressman william lacy clay in the state's democratic primary. clay has held that seat for nearly two decades. the victory by bush, now a nurse, a pastor and progressive activist came on the same night missouri missouri vote rs decided to expand medicaid eligibility. notable milestone for insurgent progressive candidates and supporters across the country. a quarter million more adults could choose to be covered by government health insurance beginning july 2021, according to estimates. joining us now, long-time political strategist paul begalla, author of the new book titled "you're fired: the perfect guide to beating donald trump." good to see you. welcome to the other side of msnbc. we're happy to sn

of state chris cole box, well, it would have given democrats a real chance to win a senate seat in kansas for the first time in nearly 90 years. internal polling reportedly had shown that kobach tied with bouvier and a hypothetical november matchup. democratic super pac with millions in support of kobach because he represented the best chance to win a seat in november. kobach had been criticized for being too far rig lost the 2008 governor's race. we are also closely monitoring two races in michigan, in western michigan's third district, u.s. military veteran peter meijer of the meijer supermarket chain is leading. lynn afendoulis and they never-trumper, an allegation meijer denied. never-trump-yard turned libertarian justin amash decided not to run again in july. now, the other michigan races in the 13th district. democratic representative rashida tlaib, one of president trump's more outspoken critics, is the head of challenger brenda jones, the detroit city council president, and former u.s. representative. now, tlaib is considered a vulnerable member of the so-called squad before progressive congresswoman, and now jones has attacked a tlaib for prioritizing national statur