my guest today is one of the uk's best known naturalists and environmental campaigners, chris packham humans capable of fundamentally changing our priorities? chris, thanks so much for inviting me to your home, but also this woodland, which i know means so much to you. yes, well, this is my ecological home, there's no question of that. i love this patch of woodland. i feel more connected to this place than anywhere else on earth. it's an environment that i grew up in, this oak hazel, a bit of ash, a bit of yew woodland. and i'm comfortable here with all the colours, the sounds, the smells. it's a wonderful place to be able to spend my time. and i've spent more of it here this spring than ever before. i was going to say, the coronavirus pandemic has affected us all. how has it actually affected your life? my mother always used to say, "you've got to find some good in some bad." and we've had terrible bad this spring and summer. but i've found good here because i've come to this place on a twice daily basis at least, and i've reconnected with nature in a way that i haven't done since my