: thank you, anna and jake i am steve shepard, senior campaigns editor of politico, joined by elena schneider we have, as they said, two republican pollsters joining us today. john mclaughlin, part of the trump campaign polling team, and neil newhouse, republican strategies. neil was the pollster for the previous republican presidential nominee, mitt romney in 2012. elena: but before we get started, a reminder that you can follow along with this conversation following the hashtag #rncwithpolitico. and also ask us questions @politico. so thank you john and neil for being with us this morning. mr. newhouse: thanks, elena. mr. mclaughlin: pleasure to be here. steve: for both of you, i want to start with the question i get most of all when people ask me, whether it is in a speaking gig or in general conversation, about the polls, and that is to what extent the polls have underestimated president trump over the past five years. most of the folks who have looked at the idea of a trump hidden voter effect have not found anything significant. but i know both of you believe there is underestimation go