you have personifications of parliament jazz music in esquire magazine.effect become characters in the story. why is it important to understand harlem to understand sugar ray robinson? >> guest: well, people always say a statement. they always say he had such style. or she had such style. what does that mean? i was intrigued with that. >> what is style? 's boomac i just didn't want to write the book and tell the reader that sugar ray robinson had style and class without giving them an explanation of how it grew within him. and he grew up in detroit when he was about 12 years old. his mother moved him to harlem. civic. [inaudible] >> guest: 's father stayed behind her he was always estranged from his father just like joe lewis. that is a good point. i think that both they looked for father figures. with the jasmine they're going in and out of harlem. because harlem was that one place was the one place in america where there was black, political muscle. there was a great pride left over from the harlem renaissance. and that was still flowing up and down the

he gave you a feeling that he could go over to esquire and be one of its male fashion models.urse esquire at the time didn't have any black male fashion models, but he gave you that since that he was doing more for boxing and boxing was doing for him. and i think that made some folks jealous. and, and he won with style. he won with something approaching beauty in the rain. he was very sharp. he wasn't wild. he thought about his punches, and after his fight, his crowd became a crowd of poets, writers, horn players, miles davis, lena horne. he just attracted a whole nother crowd. >> host: there's always this cultural disconnect when you have in the black community, and you saw this with certainly the young cassius clay, a willingness to speak of yourself as being pretty and a willingness to look pretty and look stylish. this is a broad generalization but among white fight fans you almost get a homophobia that results from that. and what in the black community sees like you are pretty toney, you are styling, and the white unity is all of a sudden seen as suspect and something to

and esquire. of the man by the way these are the stories from the tsunami. that. sandwiched between the polluted harbor and a busy highway is the charcoal making community of wood. in the district of don't drink. husband and wife team jody and babe sportiness have operated a charcoal pit here for the last 9 years. posing in modest only i know i mean it's the one that had a thief in the boarding. buses only none of my real when i'm on but in their pocket from my liver somehow you know i mean i did what i said even though i'm going under so none of what i am a sudden zoning on a lump will not let me munition and family. the good for jodi and bates charcoal is scavenged from all across the city. where ever it can be found. on. the road is stacked cardboard and set alight. it's a precise process which takes 3 days one mistake and the whole batch is ruined. 2 kilometers east of the charcoal pits corn cellar and mother of 9 is starting work cause i am just making good on them up on one of the demo don't know my. they . know my bad will be on the. leash. not going to hap

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and they ask him this question in "esquire" in 1958 and said what did you say out in the street? he said i wouldn't tell them not to get their guns i paraphrase. i would not tell them not to fight or defend themselves and i'm paraphrasing but i would say if you going to shoot that white man which it may come to , don't hate him. because the hatred corrodes the soul. because at the heart of the project it seems to me that moral concern of who we aspire to be. how do we not allow to just form and disfigure the soul? as we engage in this arduous path of self creation under these captive conditions. so fight to your last breath because that's what he said. but do it in the name of love not in the name of hate. >> that's right. >> that is eloquent speaking my brother. we should never speak for brother baldwin. we went to the heart of american apartheid, slavery and terroris terrorism. that is what he was up against. he got off the plane and the bus and walked into a militarized zone with a very vicious attack. but he asks how black folks can keep their souls intact. that is a moral an

preston esquire and ted "theodore" logan.ew film, "bill and ted face the music." >> greetings, my excellent friends. >> do we know you? >> i'm kelly. >> wait, you're rufus' daughter. >> i am. and i've been wanting to meet you my whole life. >> it must be very disappointing. >> not at all! we have a problem, gentlemen. potentially a very serious problem. >> about the music? >> about the music-- they just want to talk to you. >> dude, i've got a very bad feeling about this. >> it will be fine, ted. they totally love us in the future, dude. >> stephen: please welcome keanu reeves and alex winter. hey, fell as. >> hey, there. >> stephen: thanks so much for being here. >> of course, thank you. >> thank you for having us. >> stephen: in the world of covid i can never really tell where anybody is. where on this planet are we talking to you? >> i am in beautiful downtown south pasadena, california. >> stephen: okay, sure. >> and i am in berlin, germany. >> stephen: okay. wait a second. how can you-- americans aren't allowed to go to

opportunity to travel to southern california to write an article on hot rod and custom car culture for esquire. stumped for nagel for the article he sent his nose to his editor who published verbatim, described as, quote, a long spontaneous letter dispensing with traditional journalistic conventions and describing the whole scene and thus was born the new journalism. the rest they say is history, this and other essays were collected in the book, the candy colored tangerine, making the best talked about journalist in america. numbering his dailies days as a daily newspaper correspondent. two books published the same day in 1968, "the electric kool-aid acid test" solidified his reputation as the observer and document are of contemporary american experience was 1970s the flak catchers 1975, the painted world 1976, mad men clutter, the me generation was coined. other tom wolfe contributions to the american mexican include radical chic, trophy wife and "the right stuff". turning his attention to the american space program "the right stuff" was published in 1979, modern architecture from car house t

short form work has been featured in the new yorker, new york times, the atlantic, rolling stone, l, esquireand the guardian among many others, she is based in harlem. joining morgan and conversation is Ãbborn and raised in jackson mississippi professor of english and creative writing at the university of mississippi the author of " the long" long division and the collection of x-rays: essays, how to slowly kill yourself and others in america. also author of the men were heavy, shortlisted for the andrew carnegie medal named one of the best books in 2018 by the young defeated, new york times novel shows weekly, mpr, library journal, washington post, entertainment weekly, the san francisco chronicle and the new york times critics. without further ado, please join me in welcoming morgan and dashed to the stage >> hello everyone. >> what's going on? how are you? >> good, how are you. >> i'm so excited to talk to you about this book pham. i wish we could've done this down south. >> i know. this is a full circle moment for me because two years ago, maybe two years ago, i was in conversation with

he said they asked him this question esquire 1958 denise and i know what would you say to the folks who are out of the street. and he said well, i would not tell them not to get their guns. i would tell them not to fight and to defend themselves. and i would say to them, and my paraphrasing. if you going to kill that white men, going to blow his brains out and you're going to shoot him, which may come to be says. don't take them. because the hatred will corrode the soul. because of the heart of the project it seems to me is a moral thing. about who we take ourselves to be. it we aspire to be. how do we not allow the ugliness of the world to deform and disfigure. the soul. as we engage in this path of self creation. under the captive conditions. what would he say. fight until your last breath. because that is what he said. but do it in the name of love, not in the name of hate. >> that is eloquent. and we can say even though we should never speak from there, when he went to the heart of the american, u.s. slavery, terrorism in trouble. called jim crow predict this what he was up against.

i think he has language for us to speak to the moment and he -- asked the question in esquire in 1968 and what would you say to folks out in the streets? he says i wouldn't tell them not to get their guns. i wouldn't tell them not to fight to defend themselves and i would say to them. i am paraphrasing, if you don't kill that white man or shoot which it may come to, don't hate him. the hatred will corrode your soul. at the heart of the project it seems to me is moral concern about who we aspire to be. how do we not allow the world to deform and disfigure the soul as we engage in the arduous task of our creation under captive conditions, so what would he say? fight to your last breath because that is what he said but do it in the name of love. >> that is wisdom. we should never speak for both, when he went to the heart of american apartheid, that is what he was up against, got off the plane and walked into militarized zone with vicious attacks and was have you and first thing is how is it black folks are able to keep their souls intact? a moral and spiritual question. they had a richne