otherwise it's got to be mixed with kander, because people won't get why you're doing what you're doing. >> we're going many different ways as i said, we're trying to build our own capacity. we doubled the testing in ohio, we're averaging 22,000 a day. we ought to be double that. >> at least. >> yeah, we ought to double it again. i heard what you said in the earlier part of the show, if we had enough testing, it would be the freedom that people want. it would take away the questions about going back to school. in ohio, we let our school districts make their own decision. 675 school districts. a lot of them. the urban ones. where we've seen the most spread. they're the ones that are going online. and we have other schools that are doing that. other schools that are going to try to start back in. if we had more testing. we could do a lot of things with more testing. we can save a lot of lives. we can allow people to do more things in their lives that they want to do. >> you guys are partnering with the rockefeller foundation. they've had their own plan for a while. they make this point al