let's start on your side, radhika.making some news. what is the purpose of this issue, because i want to read this part here that's powerful where you talk about the great fire. what is it all about? >> yeah, i became editor of "vanity fair" about two and a half years ago and in a way, it's a magazine that's about aspiration, about power and personality, and i think that aspiration can be i conclusive, it should be inclusive. so for this issue, you know, it's 2020 has been a year of historic import. it was that in march when the pandemic reached american shores, and it became again in late may when george floyd was murdered in broad daylight and demonstrations and protests began, and they western just happening in minimum naps, they were happening around the world, and, so, we felt we wanted to capture the spirit of these months that have revealed, you know, real problems in the american system. if you tinned believe in systemic racism before now, if you didn't believe that our healthcare needed reforming, if you look

and radhika jones. good to have you both of with you.ka protests are hoping today also in louisville, in breonna taylor's name. when you see another tragedy unfolding in kenosha five months after the death of breonna taylor, what goes through your mind about the tate of our country? >> well, this is exactly what we write about in the issue, and it's -- there's a very powerful piece that we published, an oral history of the first two weeks of the protests after george floyd's murder. and we talked about, you know, the fact that change happens very slowly in our country, the fact that activism goes through a lot of phases and it can be, you know, it's incredibly awful to be seeing videos like this over and over again. to feel like we're stuck in a cycle. but, but what many people express to us in this issue is that they do feel that the conversation the activism has -- you know, it has intensified. we're talking more about police reform. we're talking about different ways to enshure equality. and so, as tragic as this event is, it's been,

>> radhika is the boss, let's be clear about that.preeminent voice envoys, coates burst on the scene. >> for every nickel ofaveragblak family has, the white family has a dollar. >> reporter: it revived a national dialogue about the issue, with coates even testifying before a congressional panel on reparations last year. >> enslavement is debt. black people had the fruits of their labor stolen from them. >> reporter: his landmark book is written to his son, about the dangers of being a black man in america, has sold more than 2.5 million copies. it skyrocketed back on to the best-seller list in the wake of george floyd. it must have been pretty heavy? >> yeah. it felt like somebody handed me a responsibility. not because i was flattered and praised -- i was enormously humbled, but i felt like it was a charge like somebody said, okay, now you have to go and fulfill that because if you don't, you're going to be the guy that made teur ly?don't. "the great fire," inspired by a poem in chicago who saw the influx of african-americans as a di

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