the fact is that richie neil is the chairman of the ways and means committee. as such, he is such an advocate for our country. his personal life is something that i always like to call attention to. as the chairman of ways and means, he has a great deal to say about survivor benefits on social security and the rest and he knows that well. because he lived it. his family lived it. he is there for america's working families. america's families who are impoverished by the loss of a loved one. the breadwinner in the family and the rest. i can't even believe they would say about the tax returns. richie neil has been completely strong and tough-minded on this. we are at the mercy of the court. he has been very strong and how he is going forward. he could not do anything more. in fact, when we win this election, and we have a new president of the united states in january, and we have a new secretary of the treasury, and richie neil asks for the president's returns, then the world will see what the president has been hiding all this time. in terms of dealing with the c

president in january and we have a democrat -- a new secretary of the treasury and the chairman richy neilthe ways and means committee asks for the president's tax returns, we'll see them, what the president has been trying to hide. and as i have said, including in that photo, pointing to the president, i said, mr. president, with you all roads lead to putin. >> i want to ask you if you have any doubt, this would require some speculation, if you have any doubt that what we learned from mueller was that russia aided trump's candidacy and the trump campaign welcomed it. what we learned from the senate intel report is an intricate web between the trump campaign and russian intelligence. we also learned that trump lied when he said to the special counsel he wasn't talking to his advisers about wikileaks. do you have any doubt that trump was aware of russian efforts to help him in 2016 and do you think he's doing that again in 2020? >> i would rather look forward, if i may. i don't think there was any doubt that he was aware. he even said he would invite. he didn't know that it was wrong to do.