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welcome non-contact today we discussed resistance with roger holland the co-founder of extinction rebellion and the author of common sense for the 21st century but when you have a crisis people have to i'm what they they they do you put aside those identities in favor of what you might call a cultural neutral universalist right and what i mean by gotz is we don't want to die you know the prospect of human extinction by legs every human value of every cultural group you know apart from psychic pos that site but it's everyone and we know this happened like in 2nd world war you know in french resistance shihad conservative catholics who you know are fighting on. you know rates with radical socialist you know the us people that traditionally hated each other came together and that's what needs to happen now and it starts in topping of course because there's enormous frustration with radical politics up in the moment. the science is unequivocal if we do not radically reconfigure our relationship to the planet we and most other species will become extinct this extinction is not in the distant fut