democratic congresswoman donna edwards is here, plus "new york times" white house correspondent, annie carney is back and dr. kavita patel is here first, dr. patel, on the public health violations at these two indoor rallies, it almost makes you cringe to see anybody standing that closely together neither the times nor anyone suggested anyone had been tested for coronavirus before admitted entry. so these were untested individuals packed like sardines not wearing masks. and the risk was not something the white house was unaware of they made sure that donald trump didn't get too close >> yeah, and that brings up two critical issues. we already know from the july 4th tulsa rally there are direct links, not to just a prominent figures like herman cain who died from being at that rally maskless inside, but we know that at least 500 cases of coronavirus in tulsa, oklahoma, were directly linked to attendance in that rally that's what we know of then you fast forward to what we just saw in nevada, and candidly, it brings up a second theme that the president has no regard for anyone else but himself.

she's also the author of "politico playbook," and annie carney, white house correspondent for the "new york times." great to have you both to start us off. annie, the confirmation in a moment, but i have to ask you about this reversal from the cdc, a bit of a head crasher, in light of your papers reporting that hhs secretary alex azar designated himself the final authority on this guidance. what does this tell us about how the administration is handling the pandemic now? >> this is in line with a stream of things we've seen where there seems to be a real battle inside the cdc between the scientists and the political appointees. over and over again we've seen the cdc pushing forward, or silencing the scientists, accusing them when they don't go along with the message the president wants to be sending of trying to embarrass them publicly. this is not the first time we've seen the cdc backtrack on something. our paper reported last week that the cdc, you know, had pulled down guidance that -- had reversed course, had said they would no longer recommend testing asymptomatic people and only