and former republican congresswoman susan molinari of new york.hank you all very much for being here. before we get started, i just want to play a clip of something. i'm just going to be flat out and say it, something i said about a little more than 24 hours ago. let's play it. >> i'm not surprised by mitch mcconnell. i will not be surprised by what senator lindsey graham will do in the future. he is the chair of the senate judiciary committee. i think he played at the beginning of the show -- or you have a clip of him telling jeffrey goldberg of "the atlantic" that he will not entertain a supreme court justice if it comes in an election year and he said, keep the tape. we've got the tape. and he's gonna go -- he is going to go against his word. i guarantee you he will do that. >> yep. >> i guarantee it. michael steele, were you surprised by what senator graham did? >> no. i didn't believe it when he said it. >> you're a better man than i am. >> everyone is taking the people at their word. there was no way in hell that a supreme court nomination o

officials i mentioned, including olivia troy joined powell, kasich, members of congress charlie dent, susan molinari, meg wh whitman, carly fiorina, this is an exhausting list. i have to say there were a lot of republicans endorsing hillary clinton last time. it's a different scenario. these are individuals who have seen up close and personal the trump presidency. >> you read my mind when you said that. as you were going through that list i was thinking, man, i remember there time four years ago, this was the exact exercise hillary clinton campaign was engaged in, trying to recruit republicans in to give permission structure for republicans to come over and vote for her. this is a similar type of exercise. the difference for the american people, not so much about the difference between republicans now, the difference with the american people is they have experienced four years of donald trump as president. that's what the biden campaign is counting on to make this matter more, no longer a theoretical exercise, what kind of president donald trump might be. we are living in the presidency of donald tr