and early seventy's going to college and saw you know as you did the weatherman and the symbionese liberation army and so forth but it was never this ban across a broad swath of our society and it doesn't look better on the horizon does it. no because already. i guess are you know already sort of laying the groundwork for it just beauty in the election results and even if there may be problems in terms of vote counting or ballots received late the fact that both sides are sort of indicating that they're not ready to accept the result of the election leads me to believe that we're in for a a rough november do you think people would deliberately vote twice go to that trouble of mailing in a vote and go and avoid the just say that will be a very few. well i don't know how many how many it would be but i certainly as a former prosecutor know that people are capable of pretty much everything if they really want to accomplish something so i wouldn't be surprised if we see that happening and what numbers i don't know but this push for universal mail in voting bothers me a great deal and i do think that i