training sessions for the interrogators and the stuff at abu ghraib prison or he transmitted the guantanamo and techniques to the abu ghraib stuff basically the restraints were removed and they were told to get results the thing that became so clear is that what the united states was doing was not a secret it was hidden in plain sight it wasn't really until the photographs from abu ghraib were released which were just you know the tip of the iceberg of what was actually happening that people in this country began actually talking about it. but we didn't know what it was exactly and why did the fire to my command all over again have left the exactly the right signal or so that. we did exactly what. they were seeing the most not all of them i can look into whether one is 1600 of them we've only seen up in about 20 maybe 31600 and they say the the worst ones are are the ones with him saying so and yes they were violating the military regulations and what they're doing but . they were operating within a system in which they they were conditioned they were structured in order to violate those la

a reviewer there was terrible so that i was right i was very angry when the abu ghraib trial happened. i got a call from the lawyer for chip frederick. and he asked me to act as part of the defense team i said well the person that you should really talk to is zimbardo he ran this experiment in the 1970 s. and the situations of abu ghraib as far as i can tell are those conditions that are also reproduced in the. zimbardo experiments chip frederick he's. the man here he was the one who had the idea of putting electrodes on in the hood his lawyer said the problem now is the military want to use him in a show trial in baghdad. in abu ghraib not only not a single scene office that went to trial not a single scene officer got a call letter of reprimand in fact in some cases they even got promoted in the offices so it's it's the people at the top always take care of the people at the top. we're still evaluating how we are going to approach the whole issue of interrogations detentions and so forth and i don't believe that anybody has but belong on the other hand i also have a belief that we n

in abu ghraib not only not a single scene office that went to trial not a single scene officer got a call letter of reprimand in fact in some cases they even got promoted the offices so it's it's the people at the top always take care of the people at the time. when we're still evaluating how we are going to approach the whole issue of interrogations detentions and so forth and i don't believe that anybody has but belong on the other hand i also have a belief that we need to look forward as lows as opposed to looking looking backwards. look forward will look backward go forward is going to be like backward if you don't do something about what happened in the past nobody has been held accountable for the torture that happened in the past and for this among other people i fault president obama essentially he gave everybody dick cheney donald rumsfeld he gave them all a free pass. to it's w. bush they're all going to be rehabilitated they're all going to be treated as great statesmen one day i mean they gave president obama a nobel prize for not being george w. bush to. the question of

a reviewer there was terrible so i was i was right i was very angry when the abu ghraib trial happened. i got a call from the lawyer for chip frederick. and he asked me to act as part of the defense team i said well the person that you should really talk to is zimbardo he ran this experiment in the 1970 s. and the situations of abu ghraib as far as i can tell are those conditions that are also reproduced in the. zimbardo experiments chip frederick he's. the man here he was the one who had the idea of putting electrodes on the hood. his lawyer said the problem now is the military want to use him in a show trial in baghdad. in abu ghraib not only not a single scene office that went to trial not a single scene officer got the call letter of reprimand in fact in some cases they even got promoted the offices so it's it's the people at the top always take care of the people at the time. when we were still evaluating how we are going to approach the whole issue of interrogations detentions and so forth and i don't believe that anybody has been a long haul on the other hand i also have a belie

doing was not a secret it was hidden in plain sight it wasn't really until the photographs from abu ghraib were released which were just you know the tip of the iceberg of what was actually happening that people in this country began actually talking about it. but we didn't know what it was exactly the right to do if i had to recommend all of the i have and i think exactly the right sequence of actions. that we did exactly right. very soon the most not all of them i can look into. whether one is 1600 of them we've only seen up in about 20 maybe 31600 and they say the worst ones are are the ones with him saying so and and yes they were violating the military regulations of what they were doing but. they were operating within a system in which they they were conditioned they were structured in order to violate those laws. when you arrived at the brave where you where or what had happened there. almost immediately after we arrived we were briefed that there was misconduct but we weren't given details and the interrogators that i knew who had been there during that time didn't they didn't talk

doing was not a secret it was hidden in plain sight it wasn't really until the photographs from abu ghraib were released which were just you know the tip of the iceberg of what was actually happening that people in this country began actually talking about it. but we didn't know where it was exactly the right and the if i had to recommend all of that and i think exactly the right signal is that. we didn't satisfy them.

doing was not a secret it was hidden in plain sight it wasn't really until the photographs from abu ghraib were released which were just you know the tip of the iceberg of what was actually happening that people in this country began actually talking about it. but we didn't know where it was exactly what in the end if i had to recommend all over again and i think exactly the right signals that.