also with me, blair kelly, associate professor of history. welcome to both of you. u for being with us. blair, let me just talk to you. i was talking to the attorney general a few minutes ago. and there are two issues with voting. one of them, north carolina actually gets fairly right. the early voting, the technology around voting, the encouragement of people to vote by mail and track their ballots. the other problem is that voter suppression stuff. particularly as it relates to african-americans that we see across the country, but the south is a real center for that activity. and that still happens in north carolina. >> absolutely. i'm glad to join you to talk about this important subject. you know, i'm an historian. and we think about african-americans and the vote, we have to remember the challenges we've had historically. and that this kind of suppression that we see, the efforts to make things a little bit more difficult for those who don't have access to vehicles or who work long hours or odd hours, those kind of suppression tactics connect back and harken bac