chc scandal and my name, type that in and it will flash up. times. measured by the tens of thousands of old, ill and vulnerable people who have been absolutely unlawfully treated. and this sheer scale of the finances, which is why this legal challenge is going to be lengthy, complex, and expensive. because the nhs and the government will not want to lose this case, because it would cause significant reputational damage and also huge financial liability. philip, you have explained it incredibly bentley, i didn't expect anything less, thank you, thank you for talking to us and explaining it —— incredibly brilliantly. for talking to us and explaining it -- incredibly brilliantly. thank you for the opportunity. not at all, thatis for the opportunity. not at all, that is why we are here. philip mathias talking about what he calls the continuing health care scandal. here is the weather. we are looking at a fair bit of sunshine, dry weather and showers and rain in the forecast. we will continue with the showers and gusty winds across the north and we