. >> we will get to that in a few minutes but we had george friedman speaking about his new book, storm before the calm and he talks in the way that you do, this decade, it is extremely urgent and you wrote these years will generate a vision for democracy or solidify trajectory of the american decline. i wonder, is in every generati generation, talk about the great depression or the civil strike we experienced in the 60s, why do you feel this is really different? >> this is a moment that arises once or twice a century. i came of age in the. people talking about the end of history, whether the 90s would lead to endlessly stable state of affairs and improvement and then history came roaring back. the financial crisis that shaped the experience of my generation in so many ways and now the trump era, covid, george floyd and everything with it. i think it is just one of those moment where forces are converging and timelines not being set by politicians but just by affairs coming to a head. look at climate, it's clear they have to say, over the course of the next decade, who either permanentl