these coins is because they expect chain-link and litecoin to be good hedges?r is it just something else going on? >> i think the asset class as a whole is maturing. one of the things we've seen within our investor base is about 40% of them have invested in more than one grayscale product. so they are seeing diversification benefits to owning more than one crypto. and there is this duality between bitcoin versus all coins. people are looking at protocols because they believe as we do that it probably is not a winner take all scenario and the future does hold where there are .ultiple digital currencies outine: but there are a lot there right now competing and it does seem to me -- i'm definitely the novice here, but it seems a little excessive to me. veryr sure, because it is easy to create a digital currency. over time, most of these probably will not continue to exist. but for a lot of investors, having the ability to be involved in new and exciting aotocols is part of making speculative investment in this asset class. it is early days. it takes us back to 201

litecoin jumped more than 13% in the latest session.but bitcoin cash surged 9%. a fire lit under these cryptocurrencies in terms of the paypal news. rish? >> haslinda: amazing move. let's talk about the limitations paypal put on bitcoin and its volatility. before investors count on another bowl run, bitcoin needs to show some stability. su: let's talk first about limitations. paypal is not going to let the coins be transformed -- be transferred in and out of accounts. you can only sell crypto's you bought on paypal and can't transfer them to other accounts. as for a volatility, bitcoin has been on a wild ride. up 75% year to date. the data shows most people speculate with bitcoin, they don't buy things with it. still, two publicly traded companies, space and microstrategy, have announced they were investing in bitcoin. you put that together with the paypal news, these bitcoins supporters think finally they have crossed the threshold to a new level of acceptance. rishaad: su keenan in new york. one company not included in that was ripple