let's bring in our panel joining us from manchester in england is peter kenyon professor of clinical psychology at the university of liverpool in geneva switzerland dr any spyro professor of population health science and policy at mount sinai hospital she's also an emergency and critical care physician and from the greek capital athens alric rocha is human a professor of european studies at stanford university in berlin welcome all to the program now let me begin with any sparrow 1st in geneva any i'm fed up of learning mosque fed up of not seeing my family i'm fed up of not being able to get on a plane and go somewhere i'm just fed up of this whole thing i'm fed up of the tests who much trying to blame here am i trying to blame the governments for their lack of handling the w.h. sofa bad advice where is the blame here is anyone organization to blame. or don't we wish in that part of the problem isn't it that we spend more time planing and obsessing and you're not just politicizing growing a bad toilet pathologist in the science even so that even when we do have the evidence we it's