let's speak some more about this now to tom grundy, who is editor in chief and co-founder of the hong kong free press. also joining us from hong kong tom. good to have you with us. so said the 4 pro-democracy lawmakers who have been disqualified where, ready barred from running for legislative elections. so how significant is this a session today? and what does it actually change? these 4 were banned from and now only election that was supposed to take place is tambour, that was delayed covert 19. it has happened before that we've seen democratically elected lawmakers like this ousted from the legislature. but for the 1st time, this is not going through the courts within minutes, just hours after the ageing made its ruling regarding government and they have to leave the premises. the legislature was halted just as this news came through and it appears it cannot be challenge legally. nevertheless, dennis kwok, one of those who is no longer a lawmaker, he said that this is clearly in breach of the basic war and our right to participate in public affairs. and also a failure to observe to