and if he can secure wisconsin and michigan games over his over 270 he would need pennsylvania. so you know as well as much as we're waiting on pennsylvania, it doesn't all depend on that state to come through if some of these other pieces fall into place so we're going to have to wait and see as we continue to count he is saying is we may end up knowing. >>the winner before some states are done counting. but at this point we can't stop counting because they're too many up in the air absolutely yeah and in some cases we have let's wisconsin they're not going to beef they're going to continue accepting mail in votes that are still in transit through the u.s. postal service. all the way up until saturday, so they may not have a final number till saturday, pennsylvania is going to allow these mail in votes to continue arriving until friday, so that as long as postmarked by election day they're going to wait till friday to receive them and then they'll count of so these numbers are still in flux and may stay in flux until this weekend all right, unless you ask the president who thin

pennsylvania and then we have a repeat of 2000 gore v bush. then we look at the phrap viewers are looking at now. if wisconsin and michigan and pennsylvania and north carolina and georgia go in the president's direction i expect nevada to go to biden, you know, you have a real dilemma on your hands and pennsylvania being one that, i think, could be the one that is really tied up in litigation. >> right now there are seven states that still need to be called. president trump is leading in six of those seven states. i know that with mail in ballots those tend to favor democrats but when you look at some of the numbers in wisconsin, biden down by 100,000 votes and in michigan he is down by 300,000 and in pennsylvania he is down by 600,000 votes. is it feasible even though biden is leading right now in the electoral college is it feasible they can make up the gaps in they are big gaps. >> they are big gaps but you don't know where the votes are coming from. if they come from large urban areas, that is going to go blue, democrat, if it is coming from the rural areas they will be republican votes. we don't know yet. and, the on

many votes were mailed in and key states like wisconsin michigan pennsylvania and georgia will resume counting in the morning. find her turn to night we believe we're on track to win a selection we're going to wear in this factory thank you thank you. we were getting ready to win this election frankly we did win this election. we will win this and we as far as i'm concerned we already have one. so both candidates they're both trump and biden already hinting at victory despite the count being ongoing and trump even suggesting fraud favoring the democrat side threatening legal action over it so let's talk more about this without you could be done if he joins us again in studio just let's start by saying this race is much much tighter than everybody predicted indeed and 1st and foremost it's much tighter than both candidates hoped or at least much tighter than their supporters had hoped because the both sides expected a landslide a democratic or the g.o.p. won the depends on which side of the barricades they're on but this obviously is not happening it's a nail biter of a race and this i

the rust belt the polls had him leading by double digits in places like wisconsin and michigan it was a little tighter in pennsylvania. we knew that going in, but he had a commanding lead in the polls for both wisconsin and michigan and this point it's still too early to call it was always a question in the sun belt and across the south whether or not he would have enough to win because those are always toss-up states the leads going back and forth all within a percentage point it looks like they've obviously gone the way of president trump. but again that's that's an area of the country knew it was going to be tight, but boy up in the rust belt, democrats thought for sure they had at least wisconsin and michigan locked up they didn't expect to see this this morning and then you got to wonder if if there was held by the president really canvassing in hitting hard right up until last minute and having those giant rallies whereas. >>joe biden kept his low key and did not make huge swing in a last minute push the same as the president did let's go to wilmington delaware now and talk a little bit more about how the biden

important to keep in mind that the biden campaign, of those three midwestern states, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvaniaf this hour, they feel quite confident about wisconsin and think the vote totals are very much in biden's favor. >> and yamiche, the nbc news exit poll shows that support for biden reached a new low among black men this year. only 80% of black men supported biden, slightly down from hillary clinton's level of support in 2016, significantly down from obama's level of support from 2012 and in 2008. i understand the vote in philadelphia, they're still counting, but that that's not going to be a great outcome either from philadelphia. >> that's right, and there are differences between black men and black women in terms of how they view this election, in terms of their tolerance, critics of the president would say, for misogyny, for statements that are at times sexist, again, from critics of the president. that being said, focusing on african-american voters is only one part of this picture. when you see the president being able to run up his numbers with white voters, with noncollege educa

in the morning, look at nevada, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania. nnsylvania right here. all of a sudden nevada flips and wisconsin starts to flip. sorry, this is 5:00 a.m. one more. michigan as well. i will take all of these off and i want to watch it again. the progression throughout the night as we're live on television talking about this as it happened, as things looked very, very good for the trump campaign, particularly in the midwest, pennsylvania into the midwest, nevada as well. we're waiting for votes to come in. 1:00 a.m., 2:00 a.m., 9:05 a.m. you just watched it. we talked about the progression over the last several hours, progress in wisconsin and michigan and may be happening in pennsylvania. >> there's a reason for it. explain. >> the best way to do this, and let me turn this off for a second, open the state of ohio. i think this is the best demonstration. a lot of people who were paying attention early in the night were looking at ohio and turnout in ohio and suburbs of ohio. donald trump looked like he took it off the swing state map

remember no one's flipped a state but there's 3 important ones here the north wisconsin michigan pennsylvania right pennsylvania with 20 michigan with 16 wisconsin with 10 if you put all those together if joe biden were to flip those 3 states the 3 states which flipped in the last election from blue to red of he can bring them back to blue that to 204 turns into 270 bang on the nail so there is a path there a very clear path but as we've already been hearing pennsylvania with so many more to count so many mail in votes to deal with so that would probably only be tomorrow or today whichever way you want to look at it michigan i would probably only expect on wednesday as well so it's extraordinarily close that is a direct path to $270.00 but then arizona you remember as well as i was saying there is a chance of joe biden in there and nevada not even anywhere near no numbers there and the voter would be we would think blue with it he says thinking 6 electoral college votes or maybe it's 5 the brain's a little bit fuzzy at this point so it's 6 i'm told thank you gordon right here and . i know i'm

when he flipped a bunch of democratic states that barack obama had won including ohio wisconsin michigan pennsylvania and minnesota joe biden needs to flip some states but the math could work if he managed to eke it out in michigan and wisconsin he got another state like say arizona that would give him the 37 electoral points he needs donald trump one last time by 36 electro points but those 2 races are going to go on for hours we are told and they are very close right now adrian all right john let's get some reaction from correspondents covering the 2 candidates mike hanna in wilmington delaware. kitty how could. the white house kimberly let's start with you what's the latest from the trunk campaign. yeah i just got an update from our senior white house producer chris sheridan who reports that inside the white house that every member of the campaign is glued to the t.v. screens right now watching these results come in we know that and the president had been with a number of assembled gassed in the east room we were told that he would make some sort of address to the nation but that time has come and

awaiting results in several states including the crucial midwest battlegrounds of pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. >> former vice president joe biden is currently ahead with 225 electoral votes compared to 213 for the president and biden also has a slight lead in the popular vote. >> biden said he was optimistic about winning but the president is questioning the intext cigarette grit of the election and threatening to take it to the supreme court. >> andrea fujii starts us off. >> reporter: overnight president trump declaring victory in the presidential election even as votes are still being counted. >> this is a fraud on the american public. this is an embarrassment to our country. we were getting ready to win this election. frankly we did win this election. so we'll be going to the u.s. supreme court, we want all voting to stop. >> reporter: earlier president trump tweeting a big win, then they're trying to steal the election. we will never let them do it. twitter then flagging that tweet as misleading. an optimistic joe biden speaking to supporters. >> we believe we're on track to win this ele

michigan, or pennsylvania. or a combination of wisconsin, and nevada or nebraska to maine. tell us -- look at robert with you, pennsylvania, you have president up by 2. let's look at michigan, wisconsin. and those and maybe minnesota? >> well, we -- i loo look at pennsylvania, i hung h i think a win by 4 or 5. that is the margin he needs in pennsylvania to survive. sean: you are saying that he will win, but they will steal it? >> i am saying he better win by 4 or 5% to make sure he gets victory there. that is the margin he needs to avoid what they will systematically do. sean: i have been told, poll watchers and lawyers on ground, both sides. of those pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, minnesota, what states do you have him up in? >> we have him up in michigan, down a little bit in wisconsin, but we will put out another wisconsin poll tomorrow or first thing tuesday morning. -- minnesota we have him a little bit down, but kanye with 3.3% of the vote, without kanye he is winning minnesota, but with kanye it is different, i think when can questio kanye ped up with president, w

it was whistle -- wisconsin, michigan, and pennsylvania that proved critical. the last few percentage points are still being counted. but the republican party has announced they are taking legal action over mail-in ballots in pennsylvania. the bbc's charlie shows -- tally shows arizona and george are still counting.

pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, north carolina and georgia. still counting ballots out in the west as well. nevada and california among them. at this point, the race is not over. you see here in pennsylvania, the president has a lead with about three quarters of the vote in, but democrats believe there is still much of the vote outstanding. many of the millions of ballots cast early are among those they believe are still out there. much the same in wisconsin and michigan. >> we're rounding 3:00 a.m. in the east, midnight in the west. if you are just tuning in, you probably are wondering what is the state of the race so far and what are we still waiting to get in? to get more on that we have anthony salvanto. he's our director of election surveys here at cbs news. runs the battleground tracker polls. he's been following the race all night. also major garrett still in coat and tie. wondering if you were going to take that off. salvanto has already gone down to the shirt sleeves and the tie is loosened a little. good evening. good morning to the t

aggressive play for pennsylvania focusing largely on his white working class space why is he going so hard. donald trump's path to reelection really relies on retaining 3 states michigan wisconsin and pennsylvania he's down somewhere between $9.11 points on average nationally which is the greatest deficit that any candidate has faced on election day since 1904 so he's facing a and historic loss in the popular vote but to win the presidency he has to win states through the electoral college he's far behind in both in michigan and in wisconsin but pennsylvania only shows him down 5 to 6 percentage points and while polls are likely to be more accurate this year than in 2016 he's hoping for very good luck in that state and perhaps intervention from the supreme court to push him across the line there is also a sense in the trump campaign that white working class voters are more likely to vote for him than for joe biden and while there's mixed imperial support for this that is at least donald trump's hope so that he can retain the presidency let's talk about the polls why do you think they're going to be more accurate that c.n.n. they went 2016. at the state level we see a lot more v

numbers you see in the swing states for biden, by far, are these three, wisconsin and michigan in particular and then pennsylvania, our poll there, nbc/marist poll put biden's lead at five. if biden wins these three, wisconsin, michigan, if he wins pennsylvania, that would put him over 270. and we wouldn't be talking about the rest of these states here but if trump can put a win on the board in one of these three and the one his campaign, of course, talks about is pennsylvania. if biden got wisconsin, biden got michigan and trump got pennsylvania, that would leave trump alive politically for the rest of the electoral college and he would pretty much need to sweep from that point, win iowa and ohio, north carolina, georgia, florida. texas. he would need to run the table in all of these states. that's a lot. they're all competitive, especially when you get outside wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania but trump would -- they all need to land on trump's side. he couldn't win some of them. he would have to win all of them. that's two big orders of business. try to pick off pennsylvania, that's what trump's got to do. our

the states of wisconsin michigan pennsylvania, north carolina georgia all shaded in light colors indicating that they're leaning in one particular direction, but it's still too close to call definitive. so that means they're 6 up in the air correct and at least 2 of them were not even going to know about until tomorrow or beyond possibly at a state of nevada. >>and pittsburgh pennsylvania, nevada the secretary of state said they're not going release anything new until tomorrow to have to wait on that and then they're still collecting mail in ballots until saturday. so the numbers could continue to change. >>and then the same thing for pennsylvania as well so let's see if we didn't know about an event in pennsylvania. the other 4 is their route to the white house without knowing about those 2 yeah, well it becomes difficult for joe biden nevada is something he desperately needs. he's leading in he'll need those votes if he wants to secure the easiest path to the presidency if he doesn't get nevada that he's going to have to win 3 other states it will either be wisconsin or it will be michiga

if you see that kind of shift in -- in those demographic groups, in wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania, donald trump is going to be in a lot of trouble. it's because the reality is is that if you're in wisconsin, we're not that much different than ohio, pennsylvania and michigan demographically. >> well, i guess that's what people are worried about, right, if you see ohio go in one direction. i guess the other question i have, the kind of paul ryan republican or republicans can hold themselves in a wisconsin, nice kind of state, i mean, just talk about -- wisconsin is -- can land differently. that wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania slice of it is terrain that the trump campaign saw as slightly more hostile to the trump trajectory, the trump 2020 persona is not as winning in their own view as trump 2016. >> well, you know, think about it, that wisconsin has one of the highest proportions of non-college educated white voters. so on paper this ought to be one of the most trump friendly states, one of the most difficult states to flip around. so donald trump had to do a lot of work to alien

big three, michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania, i think michigan and wisconsin, biden is in reallyood shape. think, you know, i do not -- people keep talking about a contested election. i think the contested elections will be in the senate, where there will be legal hand-to-hand combat over a bunch of these senate seats when we get past november 3. host: let's get alan in on the conversation. he is in fulton, mississippi. hello. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to make a comment, if i may. host: please do. caller: i am a supporter of president trump. and i am totally against biden for this reason. smoking gun hanging over his taking $3his son and $1 of a contract million a year salary. thisbi has not acted on for some unknown reason. -- if this proves to be true and the people who have got all the evidence is putin, the other oil company where his board,ked, or sat on the and also china. if this man, biden, is elected, compromised by three of the biggest countries in the world. host: thank you, alan. charlie cook, one of the viewpoints there a trump supporter. my

comfortable win for joe biden but let's point out just what joe biden accomplished he got back wisconsin michigan pennsylvania he flipped arizona he may flip georgia 2 extremely republican long time republican strongholds these are states that for a democratic candidate hasn't won i think since $96.99 so even just come out a little bit more than 50 percent is a huge increase in democratic support in these states so we shouldn't underestimate that and ultimately as we've been saying it's 2 choices democrat republican we've known from polls for the entire term camp the entire trump term that most republicans were going to say what was going on in the world the time most republicans stuck by donald trump and 80 percent or 90 percent approval rating of republicans so the idea that maybe you know a large amount of republicans were suddenly going to break with the president to vote for joe biden i think was a bit of a fantasy for democrats that said democrats really underperformed with latinos especially in florida especially cubans because we've known for a long long time decades even that these especially the cub

a knife edge, what happens there but then donald trump has to win in north carolina, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvaniaif he starts to lose any of those states, then he loses the presidency. just a word if you are thinking of staying up all night and wondering when you will get the result. if donald trump has lost, we should note tonight. if he has one, it will probably take a few days to find out because the upper midwestern states are not going to declare for three orfour midwestern states are not going to declare for three or four days, whereas ifjoe biden wins in florida oi’ whereas ifjoe biden wins in florida or texas or ohio, which we should learn tonight, then that is more or less game over for donald trump. but as you know, any election night is nerve—racking, you are waiting to see the real data, and that is something we don't have at the moment. it is fascinating and we will talk to you again tomorrow, of course, but for tonight, thank you very much, john sobel and the team in the states and the special programme for the results is starting at 11:30pm on bbc one. it should be a rather excitin

pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin so right now here's where things stand, trump is ahead in pennsylvania and michigan, biden has a very narrow lead in wisconsin. but still a lot of uncounted votes that could tip the races in either candidate's favor and, george, right now, georgia and north carolina, those races still too close to call. >> it happened in the midwest overnight. donald trump go out to big leads in michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania and overnight they closed and biden is ahead and it's closed in michigan as well still waiting for counts in pennsylvania. how is the biden camp absorbing all this? what is their mood right now. >> reporter: this is not the way they wanted this night to go but are adamant and confident ultimately this will end in their favor and like what they are seeing in arizona and see encouraging signs, of course, out of wisconsin that they are pointing to. so, george, they are confident but also furious calling the president's comments last night outrageous. they say they have, quote, legal teams standing by ready to deploy to resist his efforts to try t

votes, i would consider him a narrow favorite in pennsylvania and what's remarkable is in 2016, donald trump won all three of those states, wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania so narrowly, the margin in michigan is growing over 60,000 votes, which is much higher than he won it by but looking at wisconsin and pennsylvania being the mirror of 2016 and when i look at the numbers, you know, we should be careful. the polls were off. some of the exit polls may be off. trump maintained his strong performance in the middle of the state and the rural areas for sure. biden looks like he clawed back some in blue kcollar areas in te northeastern part of the state and did well in the philadelphia suburbs. we don't have a final turnout for philadelphia but trump did very well in turnout. that was the thing that always concerned me no matter what the polls showed was if he brought his people out and really hit his numbers like wisconsin he won by a million, with 1,400,000 votes that's time. he put up 1,600,000 votes. that's a lot. joe biden was able to narrowly put up more. that's the reason pennsylvania is so close is trump did a very good job of driving

he took wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania. ballots, which is still to be counted. the absentee ballot in both michigan and wisconsin is 54% of the vote. it cleans 18 points towards joe wisconsin is 54% of the vote. it cleans 18 points towardsjoe biden in michigan and cleans 16 points towards joe in michigan and cleans 16 points towardsjoe biden in michigan and cleans 16 points towards joe biden in in michigan and cleans 16 points towardsjoe biden in wisconsin. if i am sitting in joe towardsjoe biden in wisconsin. if i am sitting injoe biden's hq right now i like the look of these numbers. yeah, it is what i am hearing from people on the biden campaign side. they are still confident about the blue wall holding. can we go back to georgia though? georgia has become very interesting in the last half an hour. it looked like donald trump was comfortably ahead in georgia. then we heard a load of pole counters, voter counters, had been sent on for the night in the county that includes atlanta, a big mature district, which is younger, m

so, we've talked about the importance of wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, this being the most direct route for joe biden to the presidency simply because, look, if he wins, biden does, wisconsin, if he wins pennsylvania, puts him over 270. these are the biggest polling deficits in the swing states, in the battleground states that donald trump faces. that is particularly true in wisconsin, in michigan. of all the battleground states, trump faces the biggest polling gaps in those states. that's why pennsylvania, you hear is the must-win state, a must-win state for trump, so much campaign talk, if -- our poll today in pennsylvania has trump down by five. this is a huge if here. if trump is able to pick off pennsylvania, win come from behind there, still fall short in these other two, let's take a look at it from that perspective. from that perspective, let's talk about the early hours of tomorrow night because that's when some states we expect we're going to get a lot of vote. the lion's share of the vote. particularly florida, georgia, north carolina, ohio and texas. each one of these,

donald trump is president because of pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. ident if he holds the clinton states on this map and wins pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. there are grander plans maybe. maybe the voters will decide otherwise. if you're in the biden campaign, the bread and butter is to get those back. that's the question in the final days. you see the polls. narrowing in pennsylvania. healthy lead in pennsylvania. can joe biden turn out voters. african americans in philadelphia, and the suburbs. the red, donald trump won those counties hugely. that's a challenge there. and you move over to michigan. can joe biden take back mccomb county north of detroit up here. the awe thouuto industry, and c turn out african americans in higher numbers than hillary clinton did here. wayne county in detroit. that's the challenge in the final days of the campaign. watch the schedule. both candidates know pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan will decide the election. >> joe biden will shut down your economy. wipe out your factories and shut down your state. ship y

they feel confident about the path before them, wisconsin, michigan, and pennsylvania, the great states, critical. it is democrats trying to re-build the blue wall that donald trump managed to topple. they do think they could see better results, part of the reason the states are gray at this point, a lot of the democratic volts have a lot of ballots coming in in ways they haven't had to deal with before. huge turn-out numbers well before election day. a lot of the localities are dealing with numbers and counting in ways they haven't before. it is a long slog ahead of us. we knew it would take a while to have the votes counted. now we are living that reality. >> and what about arizona, north carolina, georgia, what is the biden campaign thinking about those? >> those are states that they feel confident about winning. they liked their chances in places like arizona, their campaign manager has been bullish on flipping arizona. this is a campaign that laid out, they have multiple paths to victory, they don't need to go through it southern states, they think the blue wall is the better path.

that is happening in michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, georgia, and others. while, joe biden is optimistic. to biden: we are on track win this election. we are feeling real good about wisconsin and michigan. [horns honking] mr. biden: by the way, it will take time to count votes, we are going to win pennsylvania. ritika: biden made his potential paths of the white house a little easier by winning arizona, the third state he has won that president trump took in 2016. democrat have taken -- control of the senate is slipping away as several republican incumbents won. almost everything would have to go right for the democrats in the undecided seats for them to win a majority. global news 24 hours a day, on air and at bloomberg quicktake, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more i'm ritikauntries, gupta. this is bloomberg. markets right now, futures are red and green as well. 35.15. at out of milwaukee, the election director saying wisconsin adding a 6:00 a.m. announcement. in the votto, it is close and we have 85% of the vote -- in nevada, it is

don't have a feel for is voting during a pandemic and how they'll count ballots in pennsylvania versus michigan versus wisconsinorries me in the sense that the post office -- if you look at pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin is behind everywhere else in the country. i don't know how you factor that in the process. all the undecided voters, decide already. you're driving me crazy. >> sara fagen, the president got god news from your home state of iowa, "the des moines register" poll shows a 7-point lead. >> yeah, this has a lot of republicans excited. the president got other good news. gallop polled are you better off than three years ago? 61% of the country says they're better off than they were three years ago. we're in a pandemic. we don't know how that plays. we assume that will have the biggest impact. if any other republican were on the ballot with a number like that -- >> this has been an issue, a paradox we've seen. people think they're doing better, but the country is not doing better. >> the question is will people vote in their own self-interest. this race feels like it's closing. i agree with chris'

all of those states wisconsin michigan and pennsylvania were democratic states that went for donald trump in 2016 they put him over the top michigan was won by just 10000 votes and the votes that are left to be counted are the votes in the early voting that happened before the election the democrats believe that those heavily tilt toward joe biden and that that will help put them over the top in the end and in wisconsin it's the urban votes that haven't yet been counted the biggest city milwaukee also can no show 'd the city of can osha has yet to be counted while the county around it has been counted and then there are those suburban in swing areas like door county which tends to vote for the eventual winner those votes have yet to be counted and those are states that until donald trump was elected had not voted for a republican for president since the 1980s so it could be days before we hear what happens in michigan in wisconsin there is a law that says the poll workers have to stay there and count every vote until all the ballots are counted

>>yes all certain for example in the states of wisconsin michigan pennsylvania, the donald trump will have a sizable lead after the in person voting is done today because one thing we've seen pulling an early vote returns is that the people who said they're going to go and vote at the polling place today are much more likely to be trump supports people who voted by mail order to exit here on early much more likely to be biden supporters so in those 3 states, wisconsin michigan pennsylvania. they are starting to count ballots until today. so if you mailed your bow and sylvania they're only an open that today and start counting it today and that's going to lot of times got up there by boat or you got scan results over the next few days and we're going to see more and more results coming from those 3 states so tonight it may look like donald trump as a massive lead pennsylvania but that's just because what's being counted. so far is mostly people who are you voting today who tend to be more likely to beat trump supports that's what's been called the red mirage this mirage as this massive

wisconsin, michigan pennsylvania. north carolina and the state of georgia here to discuss the latest on the election developments let's go to washingtonpost politics reporter philip bump, good morning philip. >>all right the counting is far from done, but the president already well went on tv last night appealing for it to end. >>right yeah, this is a strategy that the telegraph for months now essentially he understood as did anyone who's paying that the mail in ballots. absentee ballots which were being cast, you know by thanks to the coronavirus pandemic those had lead a favorite job, i so he established for months this idea those folks are some i suspect there's some difference on so forth so that he could then be in position today to say we should pay attention to those or something sketchy going on it's fraudulent hope it does votes are counted in there or if the slim lead see had last night in the states of wisconsin michigan and that's a lady in particular we're told doesn't seem likely that that's actually pla

. >> muchas gracias fátima ccomo lo mencionamos son estados claves wisconsin michigan pennsylvania arizonaá no son directas para elegir un presidente sino que son indirectas la forma electoral en que estados unidos la gente va a votar aún cuando hay una figura por la que que votar lo que se votó son colegios electorales estados pequeños que un voto de diferencia te lleva a tener todos los miembros electorales esto es lo que pasó el de 2016 cuando el voto popular sse fue en favor de hillary clinton el voto electoral een el colegio electoral lo ganó tonal trump y estos son los estados que se conocen como claves hay otros que les dicen bisagra que no momento son republicanos y en otras demócratas pero mucha paciencia. >> ssistema confuso y para muchos injusto, pero así es el sistema electoral a quien estados unidos vamos a pasar con tristán cáceres que se encuentra en san josépara tener más información de lo que está ocurriendo en santa clara cristen cuéntanos. >> así buenas noches les cuento que el proceso está por terminar pero aún hay mucho por hacer, vemos el registro de votantes en santa

all of the blue wall states out there, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, they could flip it. ink it is highly unlikely in pennsylvania, as i know it well, but it is still possible. as long as it is still possible you need to take your time and >> is there anybody left in that white house who the president listens to who could tell the president, mr. president, it's undemocratic what you're saying, it's distressing what you're saying. we need the votes to be counted for your own second term, should you win one, you need to have the people have faith that this happened the right way. is there anyone who can tell him that any more? >> i suspect the reason the four minute-call that went out and the time he did speak, there was probably a lot of discussion what he should say, and the president is a 70-some-year-old man at 2:30 in the morning, a very stressful time. i think he was just unfortunately being being more a raw version of himself. so that's just disappointing. i hope that the place -- they walk it back tomorrow and say we want the votes to be counted particularly in arizo

again, as we discussed earlier, inkreez-- increasingly the focus tonight will be on wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvaniagn and they are some what concerned about day of turnout in wisconsin and michigan. wondering if they are going to be able to win those states in the way that this map now tells them they have to win to be competitive enough to get over 270. sto that is a story line worth keeping in mind for the rest of the night. >> explain that because in speaking to a senior advise totter biden campaign earlier they told me they were feeling really good, not only about arizona but also these upper midwest states. they said because they had banked so much in the early vote, they knew how many people had turned in their ballots ahead of time or had voted earlier so it is possible in that states. the trump folks said you know our folks like to shoip on the election day and they will. biden said they have to win by 60%, are they doing that, do we know? >> there is concerned. they are not in anyway, shape or form, i don't want to give the impression that biden campaign is throwing in the towel but they a

thatjoe biden is on his way to getting the state of pennsylvania and, really, i wasjust in wisconsin and this area, the midwest and pennsylvania, michiganennsylvania were part of the so—called blue well. that is what hillary clinton called it in 2016, and donald trump managed to smash that's blue well and we are now seeing that blue wall of blue wave return here. in pennsylvania if joe biden does in fact when the state of the commonwealth. i do also wa nt to state of the commonwealth. i do also want to point out to our viewers how significant philadelphia is. it is the birthplace of american democracy. this is where the declaration of independence happened in 1776. this is also where the constitutional convention happened in 1787. so, the fact that democracy is being played out here in pennsylvania is incredibly significant. that was yalda hakim live in pennsylvania in the latest reports we are getting a saying that joe biden is ahead there. you're watching bbc news. just an update on where we are at the moment. counting is still continuing the key battleground states in this us election and we understand that a recount has been confirm

states still counting votes right now these are the ones you can see in great things i wisconsin michigan pennsylvania georgia north carolina as well and. results are hiding in the balance and could still go by the way up president joe biden is ahead of donald trump in the race for the white house but still. doesn't have enough to be handed the keys what with me in the studio is more at carstairs and caleb maupin taylor let's start with you you've got your boots on the ground you'll stateside now everything still to play for him and team biden's claiming victory is in their sights don't trump 20 not foul play and surprised by what is the latest. well we have heard the biden campaign say that they believe they are on the road to victory and we now have donald trump on social media donald trump is on twitter and this is what he has tweeted out he said quote last night i was leading off and solidly in many key states in almost all instances democrat run and controlled then one by one they started to magically disappear as surprise ballot dumps were counted very strange she says in all capital letters and

pennsylvania and the midwest, obviously we've talked a ton about the industrial midwest, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. we will start with pennsylvania. obviously this was the stunner letting everybody know that president trump was shattering the blue wall in 2016. this will take time to find final results. nine counties aren't likely to count their abs tease until wednesday. we will have to take our time here but it will be most interesting to see obviously hillary clinton had great strength in the philadelphia area and the suburbs, great strength in allegheny county and yet president trump was still able to win. why? western pennsylvania. the margins he was running up, county after county after county were margins that republicans had never seen before even in republican counties. also attention -- >> phil, i just want to -- sorry

recite them again, pennsylvania, georgia, north carolina, michigan and wisconsin and a few other statesendous and early mail-in voting. the president suggesting it's over and suggesting there was widespread voter fraud, we were getting ready to win this election, frankly, we did win this election. >> it ain't over until every vote is counted, every ballot is counted! >> reporter: election night saw two very different messages from two very different candidates. speaking to a drive-in crowd in delaware former vice president joe biden called for patience. >> it's not my place or donald trump's place to declare who's won the selection. that's the decision of the american people. but i'm optimistic about this outcome. >> reporter: while president trump prematurely declared victory at the white house despite millions of votes still being counted in several key battleground states. >> the citizens of this country have come out in record numbers. this is a record. there's never been anything like it, to support our incredible movement. we won states that we weren't expected to win. >> reporter

pennsylvania, i think we can expect this a little bit too in michigan and wisconsin. ms of the reporting and trying to interpret it. >> to that end i think the statewide officials in pennsylvania have been trying to prepare the rest of the country for that as pennsylvania has emerged as such a pivotal state in terms of the electoral college and the path to 270 here. for example, the governor of pennsylvania, tom wolf, did a tv ad in which he literally said it's going to take a few days to have the results, imploring pennsylvanians to be patient. of course it's the rest of us outside of pennsylvania who are just as impatient for those results. but the secretary of state as well has been totally equivocal saying no way pennsylvania will be announcing winner on election night given multiple counties are choosing multiple methods that will produce very different results in terms of partisan lines. some counties not counting any early vote until tomorrow no matter how many votes they got day of. >> and you had the two most important interviews last night on your show on thi

if joe biden takes wisconsin and georgia, which we were just talking about, he can can lose michigan and lose pennsylvaniand be right at 270. >> and joe biden has a couple different paths through this. he has a couple different paths. he can get georgia and get wisconsin. and let me show you north carolina. very close between the two of them. fpz that's the thing i want to stress. it's not unusual whoever wins for us to be sitting here on a decision desk waiting for days sometimes while elections officials count cast billion lots. everybody in the wormd is watching. >> this is a normal process of counting that we are seeing right now. but what is exceptional is that we have so many states so close, which means we're spilling over into the day after is and maybe days after to get that initial count. thank you very much. as i stroll over to you guys, i want to talk about the count. we're talking about the first count over here. but i regret to inform you that reince priebus, former chief of staff for president trump, is already talking object our air about a recount. a second count. his advice, gear up, ame

you point out because you can go down a number of maps that say, without pennsylvania, if biden were to win michigan and wisconsin and nevada, he would still win. >> right that's true. >> pennsylvania may not actually be crucial, where president trump does have a significant lead right now, but to your point, there is still a lot of counting going on of mail-in and absentee ballots all of which were either received prior to or on election day. >> they had to make it there why does it take this many days. why does it take until friday? >> some states don't begin counting until the morning of the election florida begins counting sooner i'm not sure some states don't begin counting until late and that is part of it you have an enormous amount of these mail-in ballots, of course, because people are being encouraged to do so. because of the virus and concern if they had any about going to a polling place i will say yesterday i went to vote, the easiest thing i've done ever, five minutes, only people in there were people directing me to where to go, carl obviously in new york, you vote red or blue, doesn't really matte

wisconsin and michigan. if wisconsin and michigan go to trump, would he be the winner at that point, or would we have to wait on pennsylvania, north carolina and georgia, he's the next president. if biden wins nevada, wisconsin and michigan, he's the next president. we all think that pennsylvania's ground zero. it might not be. it may be wisconsin and michigan. brian: what distance do they have to be this pennsylvania to not be waiting on them to count every single ballot? right now to the layman, trump's up pretty substantially, 600,000 votes, 55-43. and we're kind of trying to avoid them counting ballots with no postmark on 'em for the next couple of days. what distance do you need, what lead do you need to make it secure? >> for the president, that's the $64,000 question. historically we look at the vote that's come in and we say, well, the next votes are going to look like that. this year we may new that the president has a lead, but it doesn't mean he's got a lead in the state. he's got a lead in the election day vote, and what's left to be counted is the early vote and the mail-in, and that's what pennsylvania has sho

pennsylvania. i just wonder, stuart, when it comes to the economy and you look at wisconsin, michigan and the big onevania, how you saw that playing out >> i'm interested in pennsylvania. as you say fracking was very much in the news. as things stand, i think with about 75, 76% of the vote counted, the president has a 677,000 lead over joe biden in pennsylvania. but the votes for tha* are still to be counted come from largely urban areas which will favor joe biden and that may make up the 677,000 deficit that biden currently has in pennsylvania. you aren't going to get results out of pennsylvania until probably the end of the week, maybe saturday or longer depending on court processes. that pennsylvania race is absolutely fascinating and fracking was right in the middle of it. >> sandra: michigan just went lean biden according to the decision desk. if you play around with the 270 scenario trace and i were talking that wisconsin, michigan if biden secures those and they should be calling nevada soon, if that goes biden that's a path to victory for joe biden. of course, then if one of those, michigan o

losses from four years ago in some more purple counties and some of these states like wisconsin and michigan and pennsylvaniacing the turn up in the big cities, like in detroit and like in philadelphia. and it seems like we've already called wisconsin and michigan, joe biden was able to do that. the trend in pennsylvania is that he was also able to do that. he narrowed trump's margins in some of these counties that trump even won, but it's really in philadelphia that will deliver potentially as early as this morning the flip that we have all been waiting for. 50,000 outstanding votes, the lion's share going to joe biden would take him over the top and that is because of black voters in large part, it's because of democrats who came out in massive numbers even while president trump had his supporters come on in very large numbers in some of the more rural parts. >> that's right. the reason the blue wall crumbled four years ago is what you just described didn't happen, the last part, meaning democrats didn't come out for hillary clinton in the numbers that she needed in the cities, in the suburbs, particularly

colleague stacey bivins here in the studio georgia yes we keep bouncing around the country wisconsin michigan pennsylvania maybe arizona maybe not go at it now we're landing on georgia what is georgia mean for the election right now well georgia is key because it will determine 1st of all. it will keep joe biden alive or 2 on a champ alive either one of these camps they both need georgia and the thing is you mentioned the lawsuit in georgia with the trump campaign it's concerning 53 votes 535353 not 53500 just 53 so what happened was is that the camp says that these 53 votes came in on election day but after the 7 pm get to that line now i don't know how they know this and they're going to have to prove how they know this or if this is true but this is what what they're focusing on and part of this has to do with the trump campaign just wanting to seem like it's viable so even if trump loses he doesn't want to seem like a really big loser so he wants to feel like once you give the the image that if in fact he does lose it's not because it's fair it's because something else has happened look at all these l

we still have michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania in play. and michigan, we just saw -- i'm sorry, wisconsin, we saw milwaukee come in and now joe biden is leading in votes just by 11,000 but this race is far from over. and just when you start doing the math it's worth noting that it is possible that joe biden can still get to 270 without pennsylvania. >> let me ask you a hypothetical. if vice president biden does become president, what happens to the republican party? who is the standard-bearer? there's such a split. you represent the split from president trump. what happens next? >> i'm not sure. to be honest, like i said, i was hoping for a decisive joe biden victory, and that would have helped lead to the end of trumpism. and now we know it's still alive and it will be for some time to come, and i think it's incumbent on people like myself and other republicans to continue to call out what i call trump enablers, those who know better and still defend the president. so there's a lot more work to be had. but if vice president biden is electe

in the state of wisconsin, michigan, georgia, and pennsylvania, votes are being counted as we speak.s race is changing by the minute. we've got our team spread out to bring you all the latest, mara barrett in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, dasha burns in grand rapids, michigan, and priscilla thompson in georgia. mara, pennsylvania is the state everyone is laser focused on. do we have any sense of a time line for getting some kind of result? >> reporter: the short answer, stephanie, unfortunately is no, but we just learned that the governor here and the secretary of state will give a press briefing to update on the election in the next hour, so hoping to get some updates from that. what we do know is that this race in pennsylvania is likely to come down to the returns in the mail-in ballots. i'm standing outside of the warehouse where ballots are being processed overnight here in allegheny county. that's where pittsburgh is. this is one that democrats are really focusing on. they unexpectedly halted their processes overnight, but are expected to get back to it in the next hour. now, what w

that we knew were in his camp. >> if you look at those rust belt states, pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin pennsylvania, let's say they don't finish counting until friday afternoon at 5:00 or even next week worst-case scenario, if you look at michigan, wisconsin, if donald trump wins both of those does he need pennsylvania? do we have to wait until they finish counting? >> it depends on north carolina and georgia. right now biden is 238 electoral votes. if he wins nevada which i think, nevada is leaning in his direction than he is at 244, then he needs 26. the combination of wisconsin and michigan alone would get him to 270. donald trump needs to win georgia, north carolina, pennsylvania, and one of those two or possibly the main second see the where the president is ahead. >> on pennsylvania, there is 1.4 million ballots that aren't counted yet, the president is up by 600,000, unlike wisconsin it looks like when it comes to pennsylvania these are counties the where the president has done well in the past and present, correct? >> yes but remember we need to look not just geographically whe